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Heroes - TV Show

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by DaDakota, Oct 10, 2006.

  1. Xerobull

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    Anyone else think of XFiles when Isaac was yelling 'You can't fight the future!'?
     
  2. BiGGieStuFF

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    It's weird the future hiro didn't seem to like the fact he met with Hiro. He seemed kind of pissed. If there are two Hiro then whyd idn't the future Hiro go back in time to stop the explosion. Either there is a limitation to his power or he discovered that the explosion had to happen or it was absolutely unavoidable.

    Matt dropped the pipe because he was supposed to sneak around and appear inconspicuous. Carrying around a rusty lead pipe doesn't allow that.

    Yeah mohinder was a dumbass for that as well.

    Issac was painting as much as he could to get his message out I guess. Not sure if he hinted to the gun to try to kill sylar or maybe he was thinking of offing himself.
     
  3. Castor27

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    New comic up, answers some of the Future Hiro questions, and explains "Save the Cheerleader"
     
  4. Castor27

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    A theory, that I will spoiler to protect those that don't want to see it:


    I believe ms. Petrelli's power will be that she can sense the powers of others. I think she is the "Tracking System" HRG refers to as being in NYC. I think the reason she knew Nathan and Peter had powers is because she could sense them. She also knew what Claire's power was. She alluded to making mistakes and wanting to keep Claire from doing the same things. I think she was recruited by Linderman and the OWI to identify, and keep track of the heroes, and now she regrets doing that. I think she wants to keep Claire away from Linderman so he can't use her to do his bidding and control her like he controls everyone else that works for him.
     
  5. BiGGieStuFF

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    I have never read watchmen but I was thinking of all the 911 conspiracy theorists when that scene played out.
     
  6. GRENDEL

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    That's mixed in there as well but the Linderman plan is almost a carbon copy of that main crux of The Watchmen.

    I really enjoyed this episodes, really like HRG as a character esp. now that he's out of the loop.

    The one thing that bugs me a little is that Heros tends to telegraph 'twist' a little too much, like Peter being dead but not. Same complaint but nothing major.

    Very intrested to see next weeks 'future' episode, love what if stories
     
  7. BiGGieStuFF

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    I guess for people like my g/f who wouldn't listen to me that he's not dead and she was getting emotional about his death didn't see the twist or refused to believe it until it actually happened. Maybe they should have left him dead longer so people like me would go...Hmmm..maybe he is dead....Naaaah.

    =).

    I almost wanted Heroes to go on longer but then I would have missed part of the rockets game.
     
  8. GRENDEL

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    I hear you. I know what you mean, since the Rockets game started later than 8:30 I didn't have to do the split screen deal too much but man Heroes hour just flies by, always the sign of a great show
     
  9. DaDakota

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    #769 DaDakota, Apr 24, 2007
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    I think a couple of the graphic novels disprove this.
     
  11. Cannonball

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    OOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! Awesome!
     
  12. DaDakota

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    The new comic is at the official link....

    Here is that link chapter 30

    DD
     
  13. Rocket G

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    So the comic means that Hiro is starting to figure things out. He should be able to get to the point where he can go back and stop the bomb.
    Or direct current Hiro to rally the troops and stop it.

    The comic tells us that Hiro knows that it's Sylar, not Peter who blows up. It makes sense now b/c Peter has been training himself to control his powers - Sylar has problems contgrolling his newly acquired ones - remember the Hearing Woman?

    So... Nuke Man is headed to NYC. Safe to say that Sylar takes out Nuke Man? But before Isaac dies he says he knows how to stop Sylar - and the bomb (Sylar) - and he has now delivered the means to stop it out? If so, wtf did he deliver the last comic too? Linderman (if so the bomb goes off), published publicly (Who reads the comic then, Micah? Does Micah figure it out?)?

    Now then, did he mean that Sylar will be stopped from killing Nuke Man, and in that way can't become the bomb that blows up? Or is there another way? Hiro says he stabbed Sylar right before he blew but Sylar regenerated before he blew b/c he killed Claire. Future Hiro doesn't know Claire lives though, b/c that alone didn't change the future! So, do current Hiro & buddy know that and let future Hiro know so he can figure out another track?

    Also, we have two competing superhero groups now - and Sylar/The Bomb is becoming the pawn in a way, stuck in the middle along with Suresh, the Psycho b**** Family and some of the Petrellis.

    We have the Linderman group consisting of Clockwork Orange, Dude from Best of the Best, Mystique, etc. They mean well in a way, but want NYC to blow up to achieve their goals, and know that Sylar will cause it.

    We have the Superfriends slowly coming together with HRG Guy, Nuke Man, Mindreader, Hannah, Peter, & Claire.

    Beyond that we have Nathan Petrelli (unsure), Mama Petrelli (who is probably the tracking device), Suresh, (a gullible idiot), and other peeps (Invisible Man) who are as of yet unaligned. Who knows wtf happens with Crazy b**** Family?

    Sylar is the key figure in what might happen. The season will end either with him - and NY - destroyed, him alive but stopped from blowing, or him dead w/out blowing.

    Question is whether - if stopped - the Linderman group continues its Ozymandias Plan after this season. If so will the show then become Superfriends vs. Linderman Group?

    Anyway, all very X-Men like. Superfriends (above) = Xavier's X-Men. Linderman Group = Brotherhood of Mutants (or Emma Frost's school).

    And if anyone complains I ahve spoiled anything, f you. Read the graphic novels or read some old comics.
     
  14. Rocket G

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    Also, why is Sylar using that "voice?" Pixie Chick killed herself before Sylar could get her power.
     
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    Ooooooooooooooooh. I GET IT!
     
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    I don't understand it this way at all. As I see it, it was Sylar. He changed the past, which resulted in Peter substituting for Sylar as 'the exploding man', but with the same results in the end.

    He altered the past, but it resulted in another equally bad outcome. Peter becomes the exploding man instead of Sylar. If Hero hadn't sent Peter to protect Claire, Peter would never have gotten Claire's healing power.

    There is still a problem with the combination of someone with healing power and limited control of exploding man power. It's just now Peter instead of Sylar.
     
  17. Rocket G

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    Interesting.

    And I guess that would go along with Isaac's point about there not being a point in fighting the future. In that case NY is f'd.

    I just got the sense that Peter was past the point where he couldn't control his powers. Then again, he hasn't met Nuke Man yet, so maybe there's an uncontrollable period after acquisition.

    I still don't get the Sylar voice change. They made it clear that Pixie Girl killed herself so he couldn't pick her brain. Where's this voice coming from?
     
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    Remember also that Future Hiro was SURPRISED that Hiro and Ando showed up in his (or Issac's) place. That means Future Hiro either forgot about the visit (un-bloody-likely), or the past has been changed.
     
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    Maybe Sylar gaining this power is what leads to his demise.
     
  20. VesceySux

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    I was also annoyed by this. Still, I think his voice change had nothing to do with Eve's power of suggestion, since Isaac didn't look like he was under Sylar's control.
     

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