I hope your being sarcastic. Cause if your not I should ask you what team were you watching the past years if you did not see how many times Chuck Hayes received a bullet pass from McGrady even though he would miss wide open lay-ups.
srry, not good with postin vids yet, but listen to Bill's reaction in this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j41c2edMits
Okay I somewhat agree with you on Hayes, but those were mostly under the dunk passes that Chuck has a good percentage of making. I know your a Tracy lover. Thats fine. I as a Rockets fan am done with him. I don't care if he comes back and has a great "contract year" season. Les and Morey will not resign him.
"When you have a fantastic player like Tracy McGrady let him play basketball." Boy its funny how quick the media can turn on a player. Yeah he hit the game winning shot but what was bad about that was it was poor clock management by him. 2.2 seconds is forever to catch dribble and shoot. It really doesn't matter considering we lost that series. Tim Donohugh
Well, yeah, you could say that Kevin McHale and Isaiah Thomas were better players than coaches or GMs (even Michael Jordan falls into that category) lol.... I guess what I meant is that, a good team has at least one staple threat in its arsenal—some player and/or play call that works often enough, not matter how hard you try to stop it, that gives a team an identity. And everybody that team plays against knows it. And since the goal of any athletic competition is to WIN the contest, there's really no incentive for any team to just roll over and say, "Hey! Let's let these guys beat us! We know what they like to do! But let's not make them try to beat us some other way!" But that seems to be exactly what the Rockets were hoping would happen with just Yao and McGrady for the past few years. Nobody can really stop those two. But, you know, you CAN marginalize their impact on a game, especially if their teammates aren't up to the challenge of countering what an opponent is going to do to beat their TEAM. Shane Battier didn't "stop" Kobe Bryant. He just kept Bryant from having a cascade effect on the game. The only way Kobe could score was over Battier's outstretched hands. Bryant didn't get into the teeth of the Rockets' defense, getting a thin front line into foul trouble, or creating easier shots for teammates. If Kobe was going to beat the Rockets, he was going to do that with contested 20-foot jumpshots. And NOBODY is good enough to beat you with a steady diet of 20-30 of those things per game in a seven-game series. Kobe's will and drive and work ethic included. Jeff Van Gundy gets on national television and, almost without provocation, announces to the league how you defend Tracy McGrady (and Yao Ming, for that matter) at every opportunity. Not like the rest of the league didn't already have a book on the Rockets, courtesy of Utah. You keep McGrady out of the paint, if you have the defender or defenders for it. You concede a jumpshot before you crowd McGrady and have him get inside your defense, and get other guys wide open shots. That nobody makes regularly, by the way. You put the onus on McGrady to decide if he's got to score or if he's got to pass. Especially if the passing option works best in the long run, because the guys McGrady is passing to can't score any more "efficiently" than he can. And especially if you make McGrady the primary ballhandler and decision-maker of your offense. The defense knows where he is, ALL THE TIME. The defense knows how to defend him and the Rockets ALL THE TIME. And the Rockets lose ALL THE TIME. I could coach and beat the Rockets if the job is that easy. Especially if the Rockets themselves make it that easy. The premise has always been simple. Let McGrady or Yao draw the extra defenders. Somebody else should get a wide open shot. Of course, making those shots more than once a month would help.... What people don't get, because they loathe or love one guy in particular, is that if your initial plan of attack is countered by an opposing defense, if you're wanting to win, then you'd better be ready to counter yourself. When people left Hakeem Olajuwon to double and triple-team him, or front him, or zone him, when the other other Rockets got those looks, they were able to convert them. The problem was never really the plan, to me. Just the execution. But of course...this has never been about the Rockets as a team. Just about how much one guy may have undermined Reece Gaines or Tyronn Lue or Alex Scales or Kirk Snyder's chances to win a ring.
I love it when guys on here automatically know what is exactly going to happen with this team. Keep it up guys. Morey is going to do this this player is not going to be here. blah blah blah. Love it.
LOL, I truly hope your being sarcastic. Otherwise calling someone else out for "what they were watching" is the most ironic statement in this entire thread.
It’s called common sense. It’s obvious your either very young or just don’t have much experience watching NBA basketball. You really think an organization is going to resign a player with all previous history with Tracy’s past drama including the latest with him announcing having surgery without even advising his team first! His whole NBA career has been plagued by injury. With the direction this team is going and the problem this team has had with injuries I doubt they will resign him. Look as the history with players having micro fracture surgery. The odds aren’t good for him especially long term and this organization is thinking long term now. I would love for Tracy to come back and have an extended NBA career. It’s just not going to be with the Rockets.
its obvious that your pretty much a mcgrady hater. Please explain what difficulties has mcgrady had with the organization?? Maybe i've been sleeping for the past 5 years because i never heard about it. For you to say his days are over as a rocket is over doing it. Because a guy is injured is not a good excuse 2 say his days are over. In that case Yao's days as a Rocket are over because of his injury history. Rockets traded for Ron Artest despite his NBA history so what does that tell you?? You don't know what RA, Morey , and Les have in mind so to assume you know is not a good thing.
People seem to forget that in the 2008 series vs. the Jazz, the Rockets were without Yao Ming, our starting center who always got us easy shots and double teams. We were without our starting point guard Rafer Alston for 2.5 games, and relied on a 35 year old chucker named Bobby Jackson to run our team for heavy minutes during those 2.5 games. That worked out terribly. Then on top of that, Battier had a bad foot problem, which limited his production. The one guy who was consistently helping out Tmac was Scola. Brooks was getting very few minutes, Landry was inconsistent (although he had that very important block to save game 3 for us), Deke and Hayes were good on defense, but were not a scoring threats, and Luther Head disappeared in the playoffs once again vs. Utah. Yet, Tmac still put up a valient effort, with basically minimal help vs. a completely healthy Utah team. He scores 40 points, and we lose by 22. Scola is the ONLY other Rocket in double figures. What do you want Tmac to do, score 64 points instead of 40, when the ENTIRE Jazz defense is geared to stop you? Do yall remember that we were down by 18 in the 2nd qtr, and Tmac single handedly brought us back to within 2 or 4 by halftime? He had 28 points in the 1st half...should he have scored 35 or 40 in the 1st half? Then right before the half Rafer goes out with the injury and Tmac basically had to bring the ball up, and find a way to score 1-on-5 basically. I know the Rockets lost, but what else could he have done in Game 6? Its like Lebron for Cleveland this year, he put up AMAZING #'s throughout the playoffs, some of the best ever, but even that wasn't enough to overcome a better TEAM. Last year's team and 08's team is vastly different. In 08, Aaron Brooks couldn't get off the bench, and RA elected BJax over him...nuff said about our pg situation. This year we had Brooks starting at point (much more explosive offensively than Rafer) and we had Lowery as our backup, which is much better than Bjax. Scola was already good, but he became a better scorer/shooter, and rebounder this year. Landry added a 20 ft jumper to his game. Hayes is still the same, I'll give you that. Deke is good on D, but his injury allowed us to play much more up tempo. We also had Artest, who is capable of scoring at the 2 or 3, instead of relying on Battier to score more for us. To add to that, we had a shooting guard who could actually score off the bench in Von Wafer, instead of Luther Head who would do his annual magic act and dissappear. Enough with this Tmac hate already. Like I said before, criticize his injuries, criticize his shooting %, and criticize his shot selection...thats fine. But don't criticize his talent, his heart (cuz you don't know him), and his accused "selfishness", even though he averaged 7-8 apg as a shooting guard...sounds very selfish to me lol. In game 2 of the 2005 series vs. Dallas he had 10 assists, In game 5 of the 2007 series, he had 16 assists, and in game 7 of the same series he had 13 assists, and in Game 2 of the 08 series he had 9 assists, in game 4 of that same series he had 8 assists... those are just a few playoff games that he had a high number of assists.
I’m not a Tracy hater. Sorry I am not an individual fan of any one player. Obviously you are. That’s fine. I am a fan of the Rockets. From the moves Morey has made its all pointing that Tracy and yes Yao are no longer in the Rockets core foundation. What Difficulties? Well I never said difficulties. I said drama. I am not going to waste my time going through all of them. You have been sleeping or your delusional. You sound like one of those Steve F. lover posters. Get over it. It’s not going to happen. A hunch tells me Morey will not do that again. It didn’t work. I believe Morey has a brain. I’m just using common sense. Sorry I’m not an individual player lover like you. I will eat crow if Tracy is here during the 2010/2011 season after his contract is up just for you okay.
He hasn't taken care of his body? Well he has an "S" shaped spine due to Scoliosis...he was predicted to last 5 years in the league tops by doctors at the draft. http://www.operationsports.com/forums/pro-basketball/239501-tmac-has-scoliosis.html However, he played through the pain. There are many games in Orlando in which he would have to lay down on his stomach when he sat up, because of the pain in his back. So did Larry Bird not take care of his body or work hard, because he had MAJOR back problems since 87. Same goes with David Robinson. Can't you just admit that you don't know what type of stuff these athletes put them selves through to perform at the level that they do. How do ANY of us really know how hard an athlete works? I'm just going by the %'s and will beleive that the NBA is too damn good to just let some lazy bum come in and dominate the league for a few years. I'm just gonna guess that Tmac is more on the hard working side than the lazy side. But if you really believe that a guy with an "S" shaped spine, can go from averaging 7 ppg as an 18 year old to a scoring champ by age 23, without much hard work and effort...then go ahead and believe it, because I can't. Give the man credit, he's accomplished more than he should've and he's played MUCH longer than he should've. You don't have to like him, but just give him credit where credit is due...
Please share these quotes...I mean newspapers aren't afraid to assign a source. Are you scared that one of Tmac's goons are gonna come beat u up or something? Maybe Lebron's goons might, but I doubt Tmac has anybody to do that. If you don't want to assign a source then post them anonymously...I'll still read them, but I honestly won't know if you just made them up or if they are legit...I'm not being difficult, but you can't trust everything you read on the net. I hope you don't believe everything you read on the net...lots of false info out there... As far as Tmac not having a healthy season since 2004, he played 78 games in 2005 and 7 playoff games. He also played 71 games in 2007 and 7 playoff games as well. Doesn't sound like he had unhealthy seasons then...I can beleive that he is just now breaking down since he's had 2 consecutive seasons where he's missed a good amount of games. But you are right, everybody is different, and Tmac is no exception...he has a condition called scoliosis, which is an "S" shaped curve in his spine. He wasn't expected to play more than 5 years in the NBA because of this...he's in his 13th now. http://www.operationsports.com/forums/pro-basketball/239501-tmac-has-scoliosis.html
I never said he was a great leader...you have EVERY right to critique that. Thats what seperates Lebron, Kobe, Pierce and Dwade from him. I agree with you on his leadership.
Exactly, if these stories are so easy to find, why can't we find them? Or maybe HowsMyDriving could just post these supposed "quotes" that are easily found on the net already...
Clutchfans.net "Where assuming a poster is an "only fan" because of their name happens" Some of you guys on here are just unbelievable. Its hard to talk basketball to certain guys.
Black Knight is rolling. My favorite is the thinking that any success we had was because the team overcame McGrady's ball domination and won as a team, but any shortcomings we had was because of him and not the team. LOL
