oh man... he has to have a point for me to provide a counter point. he's listed a bunch of NBA greats and said Yao's second year stats don't match up. therefore alluding that yao will not become an NBA great. WOW! insightful. teams build around their best player. what does he have so say about that? that's the real issue here. meanwhile. he listed Moses and Chamberlain as comparisons. i'm sorry but the game has evolved from those times. yao ming is not averaging 40 boards a game. nor will he ever. he said that great players take longer to adapt from high school, but yao did not come from high school. Marc Stein wrote that the leap from China to the NBA is if anything greater, as far as adapting to the culture and mentality of the league. look. if you stay civilized like you were in this thread i have nothing against your posting. having an opposing POV is great, especially since this is a DISCUSSION forum. but dude just don't revert to coming in and putting down yao after a bad game and then going away during the win streaks.
wow. that's a great defense. you tell me what we should do then. stop building around yao. give me a better, plausible option.
why don't you go look at KG's second year stats. or look at yao's stats scaled up to 38, even 35 MPG. that's a better indicator of how he will play when he adjusts better to the rigors of this league. I'm sure that's MORE than comparable to Zo, Ewing, and Hakeem.
Hey Zhao What about Zo,Dream,David, and Shaq. They all came into the league past 1984. Is the "evolved" greatly since then? Plus Yao was 22 when he came into the league, had tree trunks for legs, and is 7'5. Moses was 18 or 19 years old, and his body was still developing. By the time he was 22 he was putting up numbers that dwarf Yaos. Your point is just some sports writers opinoin not something solid like stats.
KG was 19 years old. Yao is 23. Don't manipulate the stats. I'm not talking about what Yao could or would or will do. I'm talking about what he IS doing. That's the only thing we know for sure. I've admitted that he's better than i thought he was going to be. At the same time, he's not on par with the great centers during their first two years. That's just a fact.
Clearly you are a Rockets fan as you claim to be. Because the enthusiasm that you display for the success of one of the rockets players is just overwhelming. You "admit" his success as if you are gnashing your teeth and are about to vomit. apologies to the board for the sarcasm. i normally don't support its use.
what about them? read the post right about yours. again i say Moses played in a different era against very skinny guys. you don't think Yao's body will develop some more after he's not had ANY weight training in china? why don't you look up the average size for a center during that age. it says something when some guys could average 20 rebounds a game. i for one firmly believe that in his 4th season Yao's scoring and rebounding, compared to the league leaders, will be similar to Moses's. Moses got 15 rebounds a game, yeah... but so did Kevin Willis back then. Moses was born in 1955. when he was 22, that would have been the 76-77 season. Moses averaged 13.5 points, 13 rebounds, on 48% from the field. Dwarfing Yao's current stats. http://clutchfans.com/playerinfo.cfm?PlayerID=104 give me a break. you look up stats before making these assertions.
Also KG is a forward not a center like Yao. Forwards may develop later in thier carrers than centers. This IS my opinon(see my sig), you may discard it if you like.
Ok so I didnt look at moses age closely. he came out of High and i thought that he was 19. My appologys
it's hard to miss that monstrosity of a signature. it resembles a festering, bleeding sore, to be quite honest.
HOLD THE PRESSES. So ALL you're tring to say is that Yao's stats during his second season isn't as good as those of the NBA greats? FINE! Ain't nobody disputin' that! If you don't dispute that Yao has great potential and that we should build around Yao, then I have nothing to argue with you about.
this has nothing to do with our current debate. i'm just wondering. you don't have to answer this if you don't want to. but... 1) what are your thoughts on Taiwanese independence?
dang it! that was all you're trying to prove? Yao Ming's stats not as good as other NBA greats during the second season? oh man... that's plain as day. what does that have to do with your crusade to de-emphasize the Rocket's building around Yao though? still I double dog defy you to name a better option than building around Yao that's feasible.
I dont think you will get kicked off for criticizing yao, this is a forum after all. But pointing out the same things over and over again? It's not usually something that is exactly endearing behavior.
