Sounds to me like you take criticism of Francis the same way. So you are a bit hypocritical to be saying something like that.
So the reason you only post about topics like these is because you want to be "different"? That seems like a stupid reason to me. If the weakness of Yao's game is all the you post about, which of course he does have, then it is inevitable that you are percieved as a Yao-hater. Praise Yao when he does good, critisize Steve's weaknesses, post on other topics that have nothing at all (or just not much) to do with Steve or Yao. Then when you do post about Yao's deficiencies, people will listen to you more. The onus is on you to change your posting patterns.
thanks man. a little while earlier he mentioned "thirst" and i couldn't really help myself. however in my opinion lil penny was much better.
The onus is not on me. I post my opinons. Those that want to read them do. Those that don't don't. I'll tell you one thing, I've give Yao more props than Sane or Haven or some others have given Steve over the last six months. No one seems to be getting on their cases for being one topic posters.
look all i'm saying is. right now, it's foolish to start building around Francis instead of Yao. Okay, maybe Yao isn't consistent enough to be a true franchise player like Tim Duncan for example yet. But is Steve Francis in that league? No. At least Yao has a chance, a good chance of becoming that. the Rockets are doing the right thing, forcing the system to conform to Yao. that way Yao can gain confidence and become a dominant franchise player. i mean he needs more touches, not less. i just don't understand what Juugie wants. build around francis and make yao conform to francis's style of play? i think that discussion is moot. is he just bemoaning the fact that Yao Ming is no Tim Duncan yet? Get over it. How many teams have a player of that caliber, that can carry a team by himself? Maybe Yao isn't that or needs a complementary star even at his peak. The Rockets have a better chance with him as the main option, and Francis needs to adapt to his role or move on. oh and i was serious. name two!
I actually the Rockets should build an offense around who is hot or has the best matchup. If Yao is killing his man, keep giving to him. If Steve is giving his man fits go to him. If Mobley has an advantage, go through him. The 86 Celtics were that way. They always fed the hot hand. I think the Rockets get in trouble when they try to force the ball inside against gimic defenses designed to stop it or try to drive against defenses that are sagging. I believe in an adaptable offense that finds the weakness in a defense. So in that sense, you have your stars but you play to the strengths of all your players. The NBA changes the rules to stop a team from dumping it down and waiting for the inside guy to pass it back out to spot up shooters. You have to have a more complicated offense than that to really be a successful offensive team IMO. The Rockets are one of the worst offensive teams in the league so obviously their offense isn't really working that great.
Also, Yipeng, If you look at my very first post in this thread, I gave Yao credit for having a great week against Dallas, Minnesota, and the Lakers.
Yet you keep bringing up the same drivel over and over again but ONLY after Yao has a bad game. I mean haven hit the nail on the head with you, Juugie Fruit. So what else do we want you to say? How about nothing at all and better yet, just leave so you can stop wasting server space.
You still didn't respond to the hypocritical comment you made about yao fans taking criticism so personally when you do the same thing with francis. It tears you up when people criticize francis. Your words, not mine. Why does it affect you so much when people say bad things about Francis?
Yea, because I've seen them post other things too and not just about the Yao and Steve topic. I'll rephrase my last sentence. If you want others to change their opinions of you as just a Yao hater, then the onus is on you to change your pattern of posting. If you don't care to been seen as a hater, just keep on posting the way you do now.
EDIT: last sentence is: If you don't care that you are seen as a hater, just keep on posting the way you do now.
It tears me up, but I never call anyone names, I don't go over every single post that they ever posted and try to pick out stuff. I don't scour the internet to cuome up with different troll pictures. People rip Francis every minute of every day on this board. Do you see me calling them names and telling them to ga away and flying off the handle? No. EVERY SINGLE TIME anyone has ever posted anything that can be considered critical of Yao Ming, a string of name calling, mean spirited posts have followed. You can't say the same about Steve bashing posts. Any objectional person can see that Yao fans are WAY more protective of him than Steve fans are of SF. If you say Steve turns the ball over too much, Steve fans may try to point out the good things he does. Point out negative things about Yao and prepare for huge rants on how Steve sux and the refs sux and how none of it is ever and can never be his fault.
Oh, I get it Rocket's fans hope SF stinks it up bigtime and we lose so they can come here and complain. Er, right. Man you must really not think much of the people who post here. If you don't think Rocket's fan wanted Steve to become a great point guard you're nuts. And I still don't get the argument that since one Rocket's criticized, criticizing another lessens your pain. I've always thought the SOF stuff was BS, you have proven me wrong there. What's wierd is I've seen a lot of your posts and sure we can all disagree, but all in all I've enjoyed your contributions. Why the poor Stevie bit? I like the guy too, but there's a lot of responsibility that comes with a max contract. And dragging Yao into this muck is a joke. But it does remind me how I and many others speculated that Yao's arrival would expose SF's game, so maybe that's the linkage I've been trying to figure out. So if I follow that line of logic would be SF's a better pg, than Yao is a center. Jeez, if only that were true. But even if it were it wouldn't be next year.
C'mon guys, give Juugie a break. He knows deeply into his heart he has made so many mistaken comments, since last year, or the year before last year. From his recent replies, one could readily see his retreat from his front line so far (He used to comment Yao something like schmuk, now at least he begins to think Yao is valuable). I guess his recent posts are just trying to prove that at least he got something right (he doubts how far Yoa could go). And with unknown future, bottom line, he makes sense. So please, ladies and gentlemen, leave this guy his last self-esteem. Nobody wants to be a loser all the way.
I think Juugie has carried himself very well through the course of this thread. There is no reason that posters should be bashing him just because he has a different view on Yao than they do. Even though he may have said some stupid things in the past. I think he has the right idea. I especially like this comment. good job not stooping to their level Juugie
