Here we go again - Texans shouldn't try very hard next week

Statistics FAIL

 

So what is the change you are proposing? Who is better suited that we can hire? Who is out there that is better than Kubiak? Is change really the way to go? I think no, I think we need to trust Kubiak and do what the Steelers did with Cowher. Stability is what we need, we dont need a new coach to come in and change everything just when we are about to turn the corner.

Let me answer some of the questions youve asked me. We are #3 in total offense (in yardage). That means we are turning the ball over way too much. Give credit to Jared Allen for injuring Schaub for those few games and allowing RosenFails to throw 10 picks.

His Gameplan was to do what he always did. Run/pass, set up the playaction. It didnt work as well when they had double coverage on Andre Johnson all day, one of the corners being a ProBowler. The proof of Johnson's struggles due to double coverage is by looking at Owen Daniels numbers. He had a field day, 100+ yards and millions of catches.

Dont blame the offense this time around, give blame to the defense. We were playing a team that was ranked last int he NFL in terms of 3rd down conversions and we let them walk in the park. Kubiak is not to blame for our defensive woes, it is specifically the defensive coordinators job to stop a team that sucks on offense. When the Raiders offense looks like what it was in 2002 when they won the AFC, that probably means... 1) we lack defensive talent 2) our D coaches arent doing their ****ing job. Its mostly #2, and maybe a bit of #1 considering we are weak at the secondary.

Seriously, we had one of the toughest schedules at the beginning of the year, and we play in a hard division. Weve had setbacks at QB and we are starting a rookie Rb under a new blocking scheme. Weve also had that Hurricane Ike fiasco which probably put alot of stress on the team for a week or two.

The people who expected the Texans to turn around and make the playoffs were severely mistaken, we had a longshot chance but it was foolish to hold the Texans to such high standards. We had at best, expected a 9-7 season and at worst a 7-9. We are most likely going to be a 8-8 team again... which is on par to what this team has gone through

 

Twat

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=team&sort=ypg&pos=off&league=nfl&year=2008&season=2

 

I'm well aware that we are #3 in offensive yards. To say that we are therefore the #3 offense in the NFL is stupid. Especially when we are below average in points produced (#20).

I am a big fan of twat though.

 

Thirded

 

Yards and TP are nice, but the way to beat the other team is to score more points. As such, this ain't the third best offense in the league. It's fair-to-middlin'.

 

Its the 3rd best offense that just cant hold on to the ball

 

Dude, the red zone ineffectiveness is a huge factor in this. It was far more damaging in yesterday's game, for example, than the one INT.

You're grossly underestimating this "between-the-20s" phenomenon. The Texans are 28th in Red Zone scoring. Considering that the vast number of touchdowns come on runs and passes less than 30 yards, this is very problematic.

That said, holding on to the ball counts, too. If you're the third best offense (and the Texans are not) before you count the turnovers, but not third best after, then you're not. They count.

Schaub has a lot of improving to do. Rosenfumble has (I hope) a lot of getting cut to do. The coaching staff has some planning to for red zone play design and playcalling. A short-yardage back is needed.

The offense made very real strides this year, but they are far cry from the NFL's elite. You have to actually *score* to do that.

 

That is amazing that we're #3 in yards and #20 in points

 

This isn't the NBA. You can get a star player anywhere in the first round (and any other round for that matter) of an NFL draft if you've scouted properly (and with a little luck), whereas the NBA it's pretty tough outside of a top 10 pick. Four or five picks in the NFL isn't anywhere near as valuable as the NBA draft.

That being said, I wouldn't mind a loss to spur some changes in the offseason. I don't want the team to win this game and relatively stay put in the offseason claiming that this '08 team was "on the verge." They may have been, but we still have some upgrades to make before we are title contenders.

 

I appreciate the comments, SuperBeeKay, I'm glad that you're engaging the issue. And I think there's something to be said for consistency, for not tossing out the coach every 4 years. Frankly, I don't know that there's a guy out there right now we could hire who can immediately move the team forward. The problem is that Kubiak does not inspire my confidence either, for all the reasons I mentioned. I don't think he's shown improvement in fulfilling his responsibilities as a HEAD coach since he was hired. Where would you say he has improved in his leadership? Play-calling? Preparation? Inspiration? Game management? I'm not being a dick, I'd like your opinion.

I agree with you that turnovers have been killer. Maybe Kubiak has implemented some ingenious plan to reduce turnovers that isn't obvious or that our QBs aren't good enough to carry out consistently. But for a supposed QB guru, Kubiak hasn't blown me away by transforming Carr, Schaub, or Rosenfelds into indispensible playmakers. Granted their talent isn't terribly overwhelming, but I can't say with any confidence he's helped them improve their play significantly.

I think we all agree Richard Smith sucks, but who has been his biggest supporter? The fact that Kubiak WANTS Richard Smith on the sidelines with him every week is puzzling. I don't know if its personal loyalty to the man or what. But I firmly believe Smith will be back next year and I blame Kubiak for that. He's the head coach, it's not as if the defense is simply out of his hands.

In short, I give credit to Kubiak for just what you stated: Getting the offense up to #3 in the NFL between the 20s. The rest of the game? I can't say he's growing on me. But Cowher isn't coming, and I've no idea who else is out there.

 

I'm not even thinking about tanking for better draft position. If the Bears win tonight and beat us next week. Along with the Eagles beating the girls, means NO playoffs for lil' d!

If the Bears lose tonight then it doesn't matter though. Losing 3-4 spots in the NFL draft isn't as big a deal as the NBA draft. If we have a chance to be at least not losers again, 8-8, don't give that up for a few better spots in the draft position; but you gotta tank if you have a chance to keep the cowgirls out of the playoffs!

 

IM WITH YOU BEAT THE COWGIRLS ....**** lil d

 

Once you're out the top 8 it doesnt make a crap where you draft after that.

Wins count for a lot in the NFL. So what about "false" hopes of too many wins. I'd love to have a 15-1 team that gave me too many false hopes that they'd win a Super Bowl but failed to reach.

 

At least Texan fans didnt have a party afterwards.

 

How would this win count for a lot? I don't advocate tanking but this win wouldn't count for anything but draft positioning at this point.

Also, I have to disagree about it not making a crap being out of the Top 8. Take last season as an example, we finished 8-8 with kind of a pointless win over a Jags, therefore we had the #22 pick. However, had we finished 7-9, we would have been tied with 7 other teams and could have picked anywhere from #8-#20 and would have had a chance at guys like Clady and C. Williams (both LTs that the Texans were really high on).

Obviously nothing is guaranteed, not even Top 5 picks, but sometimes a single win can put you out of the running for top players at their prospective position. But like I posted, I do not advocate tanking.

 

Don't forget that ending on a good win may save Richard Smith's job, too, which must not be allowed to happen.

 

I will have serious doubts about the Texans personnel decision-making if Richard Smith is our DC next season. He had a decent stretch of games but the rest of the season was horrible.

#23 in yards allowed
#27 in points allowed
#27 in sacks
#19 in interceptions

We're damn near the bottom of almost every major defensive category. I just don't see any justification for keeping him.

 

rterry, it looks like Kubiak is hinting at tanking:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/6178216.html

There might be a sighting of RosenFAILS on Sunday....