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  1. Rockets Red Glare

    Rockets Red Glare Contributing Member

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    Anybody know what "scientific method" means in ancient Latin and Greek languages?!?!

    It's a bonus question on my son's homework and any help would be appreciated...the Google does not seem to know the answer :)
     
  2. Fyreball

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    Is it something to do with the Greek guy who weighed birds or something?
     
  3. Rockets Red Glare

    Rockets Red Glare Contributing Member

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    If the ancient Greeks were so smart, why aren't they still around?
     
  5. Buck Turgidson

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    What is the question?

    The "scientific method" is just a series of steps.
     
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    1. make an observation
    2. form a question
    3. form a hypothesis
    4. conduct an experiment
    5. analyse data and draw a conclusion
     
  7. zeeshan2

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    Did you try google translate? I thought maybe you just googled it
     
  8. Rockets Red Glare

    Rockets Red Glare Contributing Member

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    All we got for the question is what does "scientific method" means in ancient Latin and Greek languages?!?!
     
  9. London'sBurning

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    Scientists of the old days were called natural philosophers. They believed in observing nature to see if there was a series of patterns nature obeys we nowadays call laws.

    The very first particle physicist was Democritus, "the laughing philosopher."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_philosophy

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus

     
  10. heypartner

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    That method was not invented in Greek times. The Arabs/Muslim scholars invented hypothesis with experimentation, later.

    The question is essentially how does Aristotle define a scientific method. The answer would be something about empirical study and logical deduction.
     
  11. London'sBurning

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    Wrong.
     
  12. bnb

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    something about an african vs european swallow I think.
     
  13. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

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    What is wrong?
     
  14. peleincubus

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    Sorry I have no idea. But perhaps this video will help.

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/_7iXw9zZrLo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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    It's an ill-formed or trick question. It doesn't mean anything in those languages because the words "scientific method" is modern English.
     
  16. heypartner

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    I think the question is simply how did Aristotle define the "scientific method." The answer is not our current definition. The teacher wants the student to explain the differences.

    My explanation would point out that hypothesis, experimentation and rigorous testing were not used by Aristotle, as Arabs added that later, not the Greeks/Latins.
     
  17. London'sBurning

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    Well for one Democritus is considered by modern scientists to be more of the father of modern science than other philosophers of that era. Democritus was older than Aristotle. Therefore his ideas that we contribute as a direction towards modern day science pre-dates Aristotle's incorrect beliefs.

    Democritus theories regarding the atomic theory of the universe align better with our modern theories of science whereas past philosophers like Socrates, Plato and Aristotle have had their ideas debunked for a long time now. They were brilliant thinkers however their ideas regarding how the universe operates are wrong. The belief in cause and effect under scientific terms is wrong. The belief that the earth is at the center of the universe is wrong. It's just the wrong answer.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Socratic_philosophy

    Again per Wiki

    Democritus was a Pre-Socratic philosopher. Even per Aristotle, natural philosophers sought natural explanations for phenomena. That is science. Aristotle believed in incorrect meta-physics.
     
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  18. heypartner

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    That's all good, but the question is not about the history of scientific theories. The question is about the history of the scientific method.

    So, what the teacher would want you to do is explain what Democritus would consider a scientific method. I would explain what Aristotle thought, since he fostered a more empirical method and added logical deduction. But neither are what we think of as the "Scientific Method" nowadays.
     
  19. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Just write down.

    "What is the air speed of a laden Swallow"

    DD
     

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