I have taken out the cpu and put it back in, the ram is fine. It's got a heatsink on it and it worked fine in the older system. I'll try the keyboard thing, although that would be very strange since most pc's have no problem booting up with out a keyboard, but they will eventually have an error or let you know.
I've pretty much done all this too. http://www.mysuperpc.com/build/pc_first_boot.shtml (different Mobo, but same stuff)
i bet its the motherboard, the core 2 duo is a really new chip and there are only a handful of boards that support them. It is deceiving since the core 2 chip uses the same LGA 775 socket which the penitum 4,celeron and pentium Ds use but the FSB of those chips and the architecture is different. The core 2 are all 65 nm chips while the majority of the other LGA775 are 90nm. There have been a huge number of compability issues with this. I have yet to hear of a board that is core 2 compatible that has an AGP slot on it. All the boards I have seen were all PCI-E.
This is where I got the Motherboard, and newegg claims it to be Core2 duo compatible. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813185086 I was looking for a cheap board that still had AGP and would support this CPU, because I'm not in the market for a new GPU yet...I wanna use my 6800GT for a while longer. http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=387&MenuID=92&LanID=2
sadly that could be the case but it maybe only after a bios update or flash and to do that you need a different chip to do it on. check the manufacturer webpage. but once again newegg and other website do not always have correct info. it could also be a bad board, if you had a diff compatible board to try to post on you can be sure. I didnt see anyone asking earlier but I am sure you did this, but you did place the stands in the case and then mounted the board into the stands right? Have you tried posting the board,chip,ram outside of the case?
Unfortunately the problem can be one of many and the only way to really know what the problem is and fix it is by having 2 of a lot of things (CPU, RAM, etc) so you can swap 1 out and put the other in until something finally works. At that point you will have isolated what the problem is. 1) It ain't the OS. You can boot without the OS. 2) It ain't the hard drive. You can boot without the HD (unless there's some wild short caused by the HD which would be weird). 3) It can be the motherboard shorting against the case, but only you'd be able to tell by making sure it's installed correctly. 4) It ain't the keyboard not being plugged in. You can boot without a keyboard - you'll just get a warning/error during the POST/boot up. 5) A bad CPU or RAM nowadays usually results in a beep code, but then again, may not. It varies. I'd leave this open as a possible source of your problem still. 6) A bad video card should result in a beep code... again, this may vary. 7) A bad power supply could cause this. Suggestions if you haven't tried already : 1) Take the motherboard out of the case and put it on something non-static. Like the bag it came in or on a box or something. Install the RAM (only 1 stick at a time if you have multiple sticks). Install the CPU. Connect the power switch cable from the case to the motherboard and no other connector. Hook up the video card and monitor. Try to boot now. If this works, your problem was either a short with the mobo or something you connected incorrectly (like the polarity of the wires from the case to the mobo backwards). 2) Get some other RAM and try to boot. Lots of people use Patriot RAM - it's not necessarily a bad brand or anything. 3) Make sure you installed the heatsink on the CPU correctly and applied the heatsink compound correctly (as in you hopefully didn't goop it on there and slap the heatsink on). 4) Try booting with another video card. 5) Try another power supply (who makes your power supply anyway? The brand.) 6) See if there's a CMOS reset jumper on the board - you may need the manual to find it. Reset the CMOS. My wildest guess would be the problem is one of the following : motherboard shorted against the case, dead motherboard, something bad with the CPU (dead CPU, CPU not seated correctly, etc), bad/dead RAM.
I'm wondering if it is a bad board. Their site: http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=387&MenuID=92&LanID=2, says that it's compatible. I don't have anyother pc's running an intel board. I've always been with AMD, and have 3 of those sitting around. but I wanted to try out this new INtel chip. yes, I have the spaces screwedinto the case keeping the mobo from having contact with the case. what do you mean posting the board, chip, and ram outside of thecase? You mean starting it up not in the case? that I haven't done. (it's screwed into the spacers on the case right now.
posting is where all you do is take the board and place the cpu chip, heatsink, ram, keyboard,mouse, graphics card (connect to monitor) into the board. place the board on top of an antistatic bag or on top of the mother board box. plug in the 4 pin cpu power connector and the 20/24 pin mainboard connector onto the board. then turn on the board by using a screwdriver to touch the power jumper connection. (the jumper connection, with the reset jumper, hdd led and sometimes speaker located usually in on the bottom of the board) what this should do is at least ensure all the major hardware of your cpu are working. You will probably get a screen saying no disk found or something. as long as something shows up on your monitor its ok.
Thanks for the long reply Dod. 1. I haven't tried it outside of the case, I'm going to try that tomorow. 2. As for the Ram, I do have another stick. I'll swap out my current one for the other to see if that makes a difference. 3. My PS isn't a nice namebrand PS, but I have been using it for almost 3 years in my other pc. It's an Okia. It's been workign fine no problems in my other pc. (which I gutted to get my harddrive into this new one, and dvd drive, and GPU etc.) 4. I've been attempting to boot it up with out the GPU, just running off the mobo's integrated graphics. I did try it with the GPU too but it still didn't work. 5. I don't think the motherboard has a speaker built into it, so I won't hear any beeps. There was a 2 wired round object that I think is a speaker in the box that I can attach to the spkr1 spot on the mobo. (manual says that the place for the optional mobo speaker). I did that but still had no beeps. The mobo, and the Case had some of the worst instructions ever. I'm having a hard time with the polarities. (for the front panel stuff [HD LED, PWER SWitch, Reset Switch]) I tried to see if that was the problem by just having the pwer switch plugged in. Tomorow, I'm going to try to boot it up outside of the case with the current ram, and then with my other stick. I haven't added any extra thermal greese yet. It just has what was already stuck to the Intel's heatsink. Every component in this computer but the motherboard and CPU/heatsink is parts I've alrady been using in my older pc. (I just pulled them all out of it yesterday when my new case and mobo etc. arrived from newegg. ) So i know they work.
Alright, i'm going to try this in the morning. I'll revive this thread when i've tried all that tomorow, hopefully I wont need to, but if I do need it to get more help. I've been trouble shooting the problem by trying to start up the system with as few components attached as possible. I haven't tried that outside of the case yet, so I will try that tomorow. Thanks!
i am doubting the board because afaik the new intel chips all require ddr2 and not ddr400. what also could be the case is that the board will only work with the core2 chip if you use ddr2 and not ddr. i read an earlier post of yours saying the board had slots for both ddr2 and ddr? try a stick of ddr2 if posting withe the ddr fails. honestly i would say get a new good board but chances are you will have to get a new video card with that too
I actually don't have any ddr2 I don't think. I'll have to check the other systems around the house. Here's a pic of the mobo: http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWeb/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=387&MenuID=92&LanID=2
From looking at your mobo manual, the board can support either DDR 400/333 or DDR2 533/400 DIMMs, but not both at the same time. Your stick of RAM is one of these, right?
well my advice is to try this a) post outside of the board with the components you have if works then something with the case is shorting the board b) if doesnt work try posting same components with ddr2 ram if works then put in case and try booting again c) if doesnt work try using a different lga 775 chip with the ddr and ddr2 ram and see if none of these work the board is bad. if you dont have the components to test all possibilities i would say try to go to a local computer repair shop and ask for assitance there to post the board they should have all the parts needed. they may charge you a fee for their services though. also if possible see in your manual what bios the board has, according to the website it needs the bios from nov 2005 which is EXTREMELY shady since the core 2 chips were not even around at the time. I have never heard of the company, do you know of anyone who has been able to run a core2 on this board? if you lived out in la i would have helped ya out on that sucka in no time
That's one thing that sucks up in College Station. There really aren't any computer places. And I shutter at the thought of having to go to the Geek Squad at best buy....uhhhh..... As for the Bios, that is kind of strange. I've read a lot about the mobo online though, and most people don't seem to be having any problems. (they also have an intel core 2 duo) I'm running the E6400 Core2duo.
if they are anything like the geek squad here there are a bunch of idiots who act like they know their **** because of a 30 min internet course that they were given by best buy. at the old comp store i worked at the majority of our customers were from geek squad because they f-ed up their computers so bad we had to fix it...i got 2-3 calls a day from the local geek squad people asking for help which i never gave them of course but yeah dont let them touch it.
Yah, I definetly don't trust them with it. Thnks guys, I'm goign to attempt to start er up tomorow out side of the case. I'll let you know how it goes.
I took a look @ the mobo's manual there. ddr2 or ddr is fine (just don't mix the two). Note: orange slots are for ddr2(240 pin). If you're using ddr, make sure it's in the purple slot (184 pin).
I know it was mentioned in passing earlier, but your power supply does have a 4 pin cpu power connector and it is connected, correct?
