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[Help] Logo Design

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by mickey_angelo, Apr 20, 2011.

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  1. CrazyDave

    CrazyDave Member

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    Yeah, what do I know about logos. Boy do I feel silly now. They are awesome. You are awesome. Don't go changin'.
     
  2. RedRedemption

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    To be honest, those aren't that good. From an amateur GFX designer's observation. Of course, it's only five bucks...
     
  3. SacTown

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    It's not really about the $5. It's short sighted to call it "a five dollar" logo. These are talented people, either going through tough time, living in a poor country, or trying to get their names out there - it doesn't mean they are not talented or don't use the same tools (photoshop) that you guys who charge $400 use.

    I'm sure for what the original poster needs, this "$5 logo" will be more than enough for what he wants to do with it. And if it isn't it will be a great start for him to build on.
     
  4. apollo33

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    Those logos look like they are worth 5 dollars. I really don't care that people making them are in poverty or whatever.

    And I'm confident RedRedemption can do a better job for free lol
     
  5. SacTown

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    For what most people need, especially someone starting a record label, paying $400 is an absolute ripoff. There are hundreds of gigs on there if you don't like the ones I posted, look around. Here is another guy you might like, also for $5.

    http://www.fiverr.com/users/psdarti...t-logo-guaranteed-satisfaction?ref=glst-g-ttl

    Here is his portfolio:
    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/fbx/?set=a.178474155517733.38826.172508439447638
     
  6. SacTown

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    Just curious, but what does a $400 logo look like? And how likely is it to make my business more profitable? I think spending money on a fancy logo is a huge waste of money and doesn't give you much return on your investment. Look at facebook's logo, look at ebay, look at google, what about amazon?. Are those "$5 logos" or are they some super duper $400 logo that is mandatory to build a business around?

    The OP is starting a record label, and based on the competition the odds are against him of becoming successful. He should focus his funds and his priorities on the important part of the business - NOT a fancy logo.
     
  7. rezdawg

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    Not so sure why you're continuing to hammer at the point that I paid 400 for a logo...like I said, there were other stuff included in that, like business card design.

    I believe a 5 dollar logo is fine...Ive never said otherwise. However, for my purposes, I need a clean logo and very nice business cards. My dental practice is worth 1.2 million right now...so spending 400 dollars to have stuff done correctly is not that important, specially when I promote cosmetics for my practice. Everything has to be clean and fresh...and I dont mind paying for it. Ive received plenty of positive feedback on my business cards, so its all worth it to me. Just a matter of perspective.

    EDIT: I also needed the design and business cards made within 48 hours...and everything was done in a timely manner.
     
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  8. ClutchCityReturns

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    http://www.graphicdesignblog.co.uk/6-reasons-why-a-logo-should-cost-more-than-your-lunch/

    A logo is often your first impression to prospective customers/clients. Suggesting you should go with a cheap alternative rather than doing it the right way is similar to suggesting that someone not bother wearing a nice outfit to an interview, or not take a shower before a date - because they think their personality is good enough.

    Honestly, if someone can't spare a few hundred dollars to define their company brand with a logo, I doubt they have the necessary assets to get the business off the ground anyway.

    As for those "better" $5 logos you posted, here are my opinions...

    Quick Take - Too busy and unbalanced. The shoes look low quality, especially the larger one. The kerning (particularly from "T" to "ake" is poor). Just overall bad in my eyes.

    Golf talk - Misaligned, haphazard font with bad kerning on "Golf". But the real killer here is that the club head is a bitmap image, which means it's not scalable, which means this logo automatically fails.

    Urban Voucher - Dotted lines are very sloppy, to the point of being unacceptable. Touch to critique the rest given the simplistic design, although I'd probably try to be more creative than Myriad Pro font.

    Tcktbooth - More bad kerning, especially with the "T". The ticket/stub feels disconnected from the text, almost like an afterthought. Doesn't work.

    WBC - I personally think the image inside the W is poor, but aside from that, this design will not reduce much smaller than it is without the subtext becoming difficult or impossible to read. Scalability up and down should always be considered.

    questionpost - This one is just bad, to be honest. I suppose their color scheme is pink, yellow, green, blue, and black? Even if they're going for the CMYK angle for some reason, the green doesn't belong. And the question mark...how original is that?

    Athlete's nirvana - What is the point of having the color change at the apostrophe? If they're trying to put emphasis on the singular "Athlete", it's not worth it - it creates an abrupt visual break. It might work better if the colors were reversed, making "Athlete" more prominent. I'm not sure what's going on with the "av" at the top...shouldn't it be "an"? If it's supposed to be "an", they failed. They also failed by using vastly different styles of font...they each make a much different subliminal statement about the company's personality.

    Clothing Wire - The image dominates the logo, but it's just a shirt. It's not original enough to be memorable or stand on its own, so it shouldn't overshadow the text. Also, the point where the thread comes off the "g" doesn't line up - that's sloppy. Personally, I think the text should be cursive, to create a sense of the thread passing through the entire logo. Once again, the kerning is off, especially between "W" and "ire".

    motion mercs - There are kerning issues between the "m" and "o", and the gun looks forced into its position. It's obviously been cropped straight across the bottom, which doesn't look good, but at the very least the height of it should be flush with "mercs" for better balance.

    ExpertAppliances - The swoosh, the "i", and the plug look disconnected. I see what they're trying to do, but it's not executed well. The capital "E" is also taller than the capital "A", which is sloppy. I'm also not a fan of the high contrast between the two colors - could cause visibility issues on certain colored backgrounds.

    Lab Saints - The font is saying something along the lines of "playful" or "fun" - I can't decide which - but does either have to do with lab work or saints? Knowing more about the actual company would help here. I'm assuming the blue inside the "a" represents fluid in a beaker or test tube? Unfortunately, because it's blue the first impression I get is "wave" or "ocean", and that's not right. As with some of the other logo accents I've discussed, the halo feels distant from the text, like it's looking for a place to fit but hasn't found it yet.

    Wordpress Angels - You're ****ing kidding me.
     
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  9. teknokid

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    Ebay, Google, and Amazon spent way more than $400 for their logos. Their logos have evolved several time.

    Ebay - The current logo was designed by Bill Cleary of the CKS group. The current version was selected from bunch.

    Google - You can see the evolution of Google logo here. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ySCIT3KO9Zc/SJR0I0c5tfI/AAAAAAAAJts/swIiebJRZQI/s1600-h/logo-google.jpg I bet they pay 6 figures to their creative director. Many revisions and meetings must happen to decide on a specific look and feel. I bet you it has cost them more than 10k to come up with the current one.

    Amazon - Also you can look at the evolution of Amazon.com's logo on here. http://www.kokogiak.com/gedankengang/2004/07/amazoncom-logo-timeline.html

    All the examples you have shown look like something you would get for $5. If you want to look at some quality logos, please visit here. Http://www.logopond.com
    Branding is VERY VERY important part of recoding business since it's an entertainment industry. Appearance matters a lot. Having a strong logo will def help him branding his company through out different media: website, email, and business card.

    Don't get mad cause people dont like $5 logos you have posted.
     
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  10. Mr. Brightside

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    Exactly! Do you know how many kids in Africa you can feed with 5 dollars? At least 20.
     
  11. mickey_angelo

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    I've had quotes from $150 for the most basic start up package to $500 full service (business cards, letter heads, etc.). So if I go the professional designer route I'm thinking somewhere in the $200-$400 range.

    I just had a few people tell me that if I could find a quality freelancer I could probably save some money on what a firm would charge.

    Appreciate everyone's feedback.
     
  12. Mr. Brightside

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    Why don't you contract 50 different designers to each make a 5 dollar logo. That way you can pick the best one. It is not always the case that the most expensive designer will make the logo that you will actually like.
     
  13. mickey_angelo

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    Haha. That'll be my backup plan
     

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