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Helen Thomas: "GWB Worst President in American History"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Batman Jones, Jan 28, 2003.

  1. Achebe

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    Isn't the President sitting around 54% right now? 52%? The wave seems to have crashed.
     
  2. Batman Jones

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    Check your facts, fellas. Helen Thomas retired from the White House pool before Fleischer started giving conferences. It was unfortunate timing, since she's about the only journalist with the guts to go after him.

    Jeff, I'm surprised at you. Thomas has been famously tough on all the presidents she's covered. Likening one of the most respected White House correspondents in our contemporary history to an extreme talk radio guy is just silly.

    As for Bush's numbers, which are virtually back to pre-9/11 figures, look at his dad's numbers from the same time in his presidency. Didn't do him a lot of good in 92. He got tons of good will and benefit of the doubt from the attacks, both domestically and internationally. He has squandered virtually all of that good will. As with his dad's Iraq war, this action is at least as much about that as it is about oil.
     
  3. NJRocket

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    Then who is the Helen that is at all of the press conf's. She's an older woman..I thought thats who it was. Is there another Helen?
     
  4. DCkid

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    True. But she is a liberal democrat, no?
     
  5. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I don't care who's responsible for it. You are right, Clinton wasn't responsible for the technology boom, the rise in the internet, that help bring so much prosperity, even though I do give him credit for NAFTA. He was president, so he ought to get some credit. I know so many people who made so much money during those years and try to ignore the fact that he was president.
     
  6. Jeff

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    One other item...

    I gotta agree with pg on this one and it isn't just for one side or the other. There is no possible way for a president to live up to what the world thinks he should be.

    In order to be an effective legislator, you have to suck up to the corporate or labor lobby. If you don't you get nothing accomplished and you're a bad president. You have to take money from all kinds of people to get elected and they all expect favors once you are elected.

    Your political party makes demands of you that oftentimes don't make any logical sense but, if you cross them, they'll murder you on every issue and run you out of office for someone who toes the party line.

    Once you are in office, you can't win. You are bombarded by lobbyists, constituents, party hard liner's, the media, you name it. They all dig into every crevice of your past and the past of every one of your loved one's. They look for any reason to discredit you and make you look like an idiot.

    You are supposed to be successful because no man (yes, MEN only) who runs the country should be allowed to do so if he's only a teacher or a steel worker. You are supposed to be a near genius on practically every issue. You should be well-spoken and be good in front of the cameras. You can't show emotion unless it is to weep for a lost child or soldier, to rage against the evil in the world or to laugh at a good, clean, wholesome joke.

    You must attend church regularly and profess your allegiance to God as often as possible.

    You cannot be a friend to ANY radical or idealist movement. Your views must stay as far to the center and possible or you'll be labelled a wacko.

    You have to be tough on criminals and enemies but soft enough to be compassionate to those who suffer. You must have a firm grip on the economy but also a boatload of common sense (knowing the price of milk doesn't hurt, ask GW's dad). You must be honest and decent and moral and upstanding but don't tell an unpopular truth or stand up for a cause that isn't in favor or you'll burn for it.

    You must be married and, preferably, have kids and, while you're at it, your wife should know her place. She can help you but she better know how to make a damn good cookie and decorate the house. You must be smarter than she is and run the show and she should know that. Oh, and if she's pretty, that's a big plus.

    Did I mention that you cannot be anything other than white? Don't even have a Hispanic or black relative and, for God's sake, don't have a foreign-sounding name. Stick with Ford, Nixon, Bush, Kennedy, Clinton, Truman, Roosevelt...you know, good AMERICAN names. And, while you're at it, be protestant too. Kennedy being Catholic was a fluke and don't even think about Judiasm or any other bizarre foreign religion.

    It is an impossible task, plain and simple. All men may fail and fall short of the glory of God, but no president must fail and fall short of the glory of the approval ratings of his predecessor or the opinion polls. I don't know why the hell anyone does it in the first place.
     
  7. Mr. Clutch

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    Nah, I think Clinton did pretty well. He signed the welfare reform bill, he kept taxes pretty low, and the budget got balanced. He reappointed Greenspan as well.

    Morally, I have to say he was probably one of the worst, I mean lying about even the smallest thing was just a normal thing for him.
     
  8. DCkid

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    So what was this?

    http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/01/1557872.php
     
  9. Jeff

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    LOL! Yeah, it didn't. :)

    The truth is that Kennedy has had the highest approval ratings, but his were manufactured through crisis as well. They all are. Most presidents float somewhere between 40 and 50 for their careers unless there is a war. About half of the country approves while the other doesn't. What a surprise. :D
     
  10. RocketMan Tex

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    No Junior. I'm 41 years old. And yes, I've lived through 9 Presidents, and voted in 6 Presidential elections, and I'm here to tell you that GWB is the worst freaking President in my lifetime. I'd rather have a President getting a hummer in the oval office than a President who has the entire country bent over a rail economically and is sticking it to us where the sun doesn't shine. But since you still live off of Daddy, you wouldn't understand that, now would you. Call me when you get a clue.
     
  11. Batman Jones

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    My bad. She retired as White House Bureau Chief and UPI reporter in 2000, but continues to attend press conferences. I reserve the right to be wrong once a year or so, but I'll always admit it when I am.
     
  12. MadMax

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    exactly...her credibility is lacking.
     
  13. RocketMan Tex

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    History is repeating itself, just like it will in the 2004 Presidential election.
     
  14. MadMax

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    dream on, dreamer
     
  15. ChucklesG

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    Yeah, right after 9-11, funny how now after we've calmed down his approval rating has been jumping between 45-55%, and we haven't even begun this war that has no end in sight.
     
  16. MadMax

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    jumping between 45-55%?? how about Gallup still has it at 59-60%??
     
  17. Free Agent

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    He's not? :confused:
     
  18. ChucklesG

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    How about you're completely wrong, there was a post on here a few days ago that said 51%.
     
  19. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Are you serious??:eek:
     
  20. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    If you hadn't have voted for Clinton in 1992, I could see you making the same comment in January 1991, when Bush Sr.'s numbers were much higher that Jr.'s are right now.
     

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