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Heisman Trophy Breakdown

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  1. DonnyMost

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    Thanks.

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    http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/20...unt-more-than-othe/?ncid=txtlnkusspor00000002

    4. Case Keenum, who may win the Heisman by default, threw for 559 yards against Southern Miss on Saturday.

    On 54 pass attempts. He wasn't sacked.

    Not once.

    What's more, Keenum has attempted 398 passes so far this season and has only been sacked 10 times. Counting the sacks Keenum has dropped back to pass 408 times, probably more since he's scrambled for yardage several times, but only 10 times have defenses managed to sack him.

    That means almost 98 percent of the time when he drops back to pass, the ball is leaving his hand before a defender gets to him. Can you imagine how debilitating that is to a defensive line? To know that, on average, if you rush the quarterback on 50 consecutive plays you're going to get to him once?

    How mentally tiring must that be?

    I've read quite a bit of praise for Keenum so far this season, but I haven't read anything about Houston's offensive line and the job they've done allowing Keenum to attempt so many passes. Kudos to them.
     
  3. DonkeyMagic

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    an oline that is very undersized too
     
  4. SirCharlesFan

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    I typically think the "ESPN is biased against my team!" talk is complete horse crap (mainly because every single fanbase says this). However, I really think that the way ESPN covers college football, and the Heisman trophy, has all but ended any chance that a player from a non traditional power has at winning the Heisman.
     
  5. The Cat

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    On that same subject, I think ESPN's coverage will make it very, very rare for any non-quarterback to win the award. The feel-good "leadership" stories that serve as the basis for interesting columns have perpetuated the myth that individual quarterbacks win/lose games and "lead" their teams to victory, to the point where you can count on the QB for the No. 1 team to get it, barring extreme circumstances (Tebow's absurd numbers as a sophomore, or the ridiculous hype of Reggie Bush).

    I'd bet the same happens this year. With no clear frontrunner, wait until the last two weeks, and Tebow (with a win in the SEC championship) and/or McCoy will receive a nauseating amount of columns praising their "leadership" skills for guiding their team through an undefeated season and "making plays when they had to". The concept of team is completely lost in the star-driven modern sports media, and as a result, the true individual value gets lost too, imo.

    On a completely different subject...

    I've seen this line of thinking a number of places, and it always baffles me. What in the world relevance does that have? Unless Colt McCoy 2009 is going up against Colt McCoy 2008 in the Heisman vote this year, I'm not sure what his performance compared with a year ago has to do with anything. It's how he ranks compared to this year's field. Not last year's field, or how he played last year, or anything else to do with that.
     
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    Mark Ingram isn't the most valuable player on his team, Terrance Cody is.
     
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    A lot of it has to do with the fact that ESPN and the BCS are so snuggled up in bed together, along with their on-air personalities (including ABC), they might as well apply for a civil union.
     
  8. SamFisher

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    He's 24th in the country in QB rating and leading the country by completing 72% of his passes.

    A little perspective is in order - only in the context of his freakishly awesome season last year (where he completed 77% of his passes) does this look
    pedestrian.

    PS I am NOT arguing he should win the Heisman trophy based on this, Keenum could win it, that's fine.
     
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    I agree that McCoy's numbers from last year shouldn't be some ridiculous standard that he should have to try and live up to, I just think there should be a little more respect given to what Case Keenum has accomplished this season.
     
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    I could not care less about Colt winning the Heisman. All that matters is Texas winning the whole thing. I posted a while back that Texas' defense is better than ever and that's why I think they are the favorites to win the title.

    Keenum's numbers are very impressive but against some weak competition. The game against OK State helps his case some. I think ppl are failing to realize that he had 44 TD's last season. Getting it done in a weak conference is not going to help you win a Heisman.
     
  11. LongTimeFan

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    You take Cody off that team, and Alabama still has a nasty defense. You take Ingram off that team, and Alabama doesn't score TDs.
     
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    They don't anyways! :p
     
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    At least the failure of the offensive players to get their stuff together hasn't gotten some defensive stars thrown into the mix. It's nice to hear players like Suh, Eric Berry, Earl Thomas and Cody being mentioned, even though I agree that when it all wraps up at the end, I do think a QB will probably win it again....

    If only the award hadn't become an award for only offensive players on national-title eligible teams.... I hate that it's been manipulated to such a degree,although I guess there aren't any true criteria to go off of.
     
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    Case won't win this award. Whatever slim chance he had his defense cost him in El Paso, course that's unfair but its the way it is.

    I would like to see him be a finalist though.
     
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    Plus he lost his star receiver to injury. Just saying. He's doing real good.
     
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    Not sure how significant this is...

    http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/sports/ncaa_football/091109_case_keenum

    I wonder how many of these "inquiries" get sent out every year?
     
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    Where are all the Clausen nut-huggers now after he AGAIN loses to a mediocre team, and no "oh he didn't have Michael Floyd" excuses this time around.


    Heisman my *******.
     
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    I'll turn into a damned pumpkin if Case goes to NYC.

    Literally.

    I'll do it at the great Fatty vs. brick wall debate.
     
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    Yeah fans of the Lakers, Red Sox, Yankees and Cowboys are always so pissed at lack of coverage.
     

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