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Heisman Trophy Breakdown

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  1. panamamyers

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    Heisman Breakdown
    Don't shoot the messenger boys.....
    OK, I'm not the messenger, I made the list, but still...
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Colt should get it.

    DD
     
  3. YugoRocketsFan

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    I heard that Obama is going to win it for watching college football, well deserved like the nobel prize.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Just cheer for his white half

    DD
     
  5. Eric Riley

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    why do you keep plugging your blog?
     
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  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Come on now, nothing wrong with that, other members here are doing that, and technically my DD's Rocket talk is a VBlog....

    DD
     
  7. baller4life315

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    Decent list but don't be surprised when you get flamed by everybody here for ranking Tebow ahead of McCoy.

    P.S. Nice to see Dion Lewis getting some love. He's done one hell of a job replacing the other McCoy.
     
  8. ItsMyFault

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    I think Ingram should win it. He's the leader IMO right now. Colt and Tebow are neck and neck... and then Keenum.
     
  9. LongTimeFan

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    Jimmy Clausen has thrown for more TDs than Colt or Tebow.
    Jimmy Clausen has a higher passing rating than Colt or Tebow.
    Jimmy Clausen has thrown less interceptions than Colt or Tebow.
    Jimmy Clausen has more passing yards than Colt or Tebow.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    He is good, but his team isn't.

    :D

    DD
     
  11. Pete Chilcutt

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    I would have to Agree again. I have my top 4 in the same order as you

    Ingram is my choice followed by Colt and Tebow, then Keenum
     
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    Big dropoff for Colt statistically. Combine that with a cupcake schedule and he ain't winning it.

    Ingram is averaging 6.6 yards per carry, give it to him.
     
  13. Asian Sensation

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    Nice list. I'd rep if I could. Good to see you got some love for the Ducks. LaMichael James is such a ****ing stud and to think he's only a Redshirt Freshman.
     
  14. g1184

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    awesome. Daryll Clark all those things + sacked less. And he doesn't look like an emu. canz havz heizmanz?!!

    I didn't know Oregon had that much talent. It's a shame they scheduled Boise State (or pulled it together late), otherwise they'd be in the NC game.
     
  15. TexasFight

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    Tebow? Seriously? That just reeks of lazy writing and no research.

    Tebow in no way or form deserves the Heisman this year.
     
  16. DonnyMost

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    http://espn.go.com/blog/NCFNation/post/_/id/11895/keenum-deserves-some-heisman-hype

    Keenum deserves some Heisman hype
    November 3, 2009 12:17 PM
    Posted by ESPN.com’s Graham Watson

    Case Keenum for Heisman.

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    There, I said it. It’s out there. Let the nasty e-mails fly.

    But no quarterback in the country has put up better numbers or been more clutch than Houston’s signal caller. So while everyone’s trying to dig up names of Heisman Trophy candidates, the best choice has been leading the nation statistically all year long.

    Keenum averages 420.88 yards of total offense per game, almost 100 yards more than the next closest player. He leads the country in passing with 35.63 completions per game and 411.63 passing yards per game. He’s already thrown for 3,293 yards this season and is on pace to come close to 5,000 yards for the year. The only quarterbacking category he doesn’t lead is passing efficiency, but he ranks fourth.

    The argument that he hasn’t played anyone doesn’t hold up. He led his team to wins at then-No. 5 (at the time) Oklahoma State and Mississippi State. He led his team to a late victory over Texas Tech. Yeah, the Cougars lost to UTEP, their only loss of the season, but Keenum still completed 67 percent of his passes for 536 yards and five touchdowns. Unfortunately, Keenum doesn’t play defense.

    Against Mississippi State, Keenum completed 75 percent of his passes for 434 yards and four touchdowns. Florida’s quarterback Tim Tebow completed 54.5 percent of his passes against the Bulldogs for 127 yards, no touchdowns and finished with 215 total yards and one score.

    Against Oklahoma State, Keenum completed 69.5 percent of his passes for 366 yards, three touchdowns and an interception. He also rushed for a score. Texas quarterback Colt McCoy completed 76.2 percent of his passes against the Cowboys for 171 yards and one score.

    Yes, Keenum doesn’t have the name recognition. He doesn’t play for an SEC or Big 12 team. He’s not plastered on T-shirts, multiple billboards and magazines. His stadium rarely sells out and his games are rarely on TV. But if you were to strip away the name and the school and the bias and put his stats and his wins up against any other quarterback in the country, he’d be an easy choice to go to New York.

    “He’s a winner and he’s a coaches' kid and he’s the leader of our team,” Houston coach Kevin Sumlin said. “For us to win, he has to play at a high level and I think he’s done that consistently… Statistically, I don’t think there’s any question that he should have a chance to go to New York. I know that there are players up there that are valuable to their programs, but I would argue that no one is more valuable to a team in the top 20 than he is.”

    Sure, stats aren’t the only quality that makes up a Heisman Trophy winner. The bronze statue goes to the nation’s best player and that includes, wins, leadership and other intangibles. Keenum doesn’t have the luxury of being surrounded by some of the nation’s best players and recruits like some other guys on the list. And like Sumlin pointed out, he has to play well for the Cougars to win. Already we’ve seen teams such as Florida and Texas win games despite subpar performances by their quarterbacks. With the exception of one loss, he’s done all the things Tebow and McCoy have done and put up better numbers doing it. He’s led his team to come-from-behind wins in the fourth quarter against Oklahoma State, Texas Tech and Southern Miss. The Cougars were down at halftime against Mississippi State when Keenum led them to 17 points, including two passing touchdowns.

    And he’s not a system quarterback. He’s not just a guy who throws the ball up to his receivers and hopes for the best. He reads defenses and puts the ball into places where only his team can catch it. On one play against Texas Tech, he actually threw the ball side arm to get it around a defender.

    Hawaii’s Colt Brennan was the last non-AQ player to make the trip to the Heisman Trophy ceremony, and Keenum is on pace to finish with better stats. And though he won’t go undefeated like Brennan, he will have better wins.

    Why is it that voters and fans are so quick to dismiss a player’s ability because he doesn’t play in one of the automatic qualifying conferences? Just because he doesn’t face an SEC defense every week doesn’t make him less of a quality player.

    And in a year where no player has really taken control of college football’s most prestigious award, Keenum should get a serious look as the winner.
     
  17. moestavern19

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    Tim Tebow should not be in consideration, his numbers 2 years ago deserve a Heisman Trophy, not last year or this year. Just because you're playing on a team with a Defense that is probably better than 5 NFL defenses doesn't mean you should coast to NYC on reputation alone.

    Clausen puts up good numbers but he isn't clutch at all, can't win the big game for squat. Case Keenum on the other hand is money in the bank clutch.
     
  18. DonkeyMagic

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    I like Colt, but he does not deserve it. Hell, Shipley's been better this year than colt has.

    it's a tough case. I think Keenum deserves it but sadly, people will just look to the big schools for the Heisman.
     
  19. SirCharlesFan

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    Moes, come on, man. I'm not endorsing Clausen over Keenum or Keenum over Clausen, but Clausen has been very clutch this season. He hasn't won every single game on the schedule, but he's brought ND back in the 4th quarter in damn near every game they've won.
     
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    The same should be said about McCoy.
     

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