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Hedo Turkoglu Watch

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by JujuxG, Jul 3, 2009.

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  1. Yonkers

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    That's fine. That's why he's leaving.
    But that's like working at Google and having Google hire someone else and paying them much more. So you decide to leave. You interview at Facebook, which is exciting and growing. But at the last minute you decide you'd take a little more money working at Joe's Web Hosting.
     
  2. Habby52

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    Thank Goodness hes going to Toronto. now at least portland will still be a playoff team that we can beat. the last thing we need is teams that we can beat getting better. even without yao we should be better than about 8 teams in the west. even if he doesnt play this year, with T mac coming back we should at least win 40.
     
  3. v3.0

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    As long as Joe's Web Hosting is a decent place to work, then why not. The working environment for most NBA teams are the same. Most of the arenas are the same, facilities, locker rooms, and amenities also.
     
  4. Yonkers

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    Well, my choice of Google and Facebook as the other two examples was to illustrate that those places are hot and exciting to people in the IT field to work. That's where a lot of the people desire to go, just like the NBA players desire to go to playoff contenders. So if your end goal is to work with and create great new technologies (win a ring) then Google and Facebook makes more sense than Joe's Web Hosting.
     
  5. qetwr111

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    Without Yao? :rolleyes:

    And Portland still has $9 mil caproom to work with.
     
  6. Tonaaayyyy

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    is a couple million more worth it when you deduct it from tax in canada?
     
  7. v3.0

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    No, most players (just like most people) want to get paid first, then worry about the benefits of the company later. Google and Facebook may have the newer and more exciting technologies, but if Joe's Web Hosting shows me the money and it's substantial enough in my eyes, then Joe's it is. I bet there are plenty of NBA players that would turn down a chance to win a ring if given the choice to make more money. Hedo is just another example.
     
  8. Asian Sensation

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    As a Blazers fan second .... I'm excited they didn't get Hedo. I've been very adamant towards keeping Rudy Fernandez happy. Hedo is not the answer for Portland. They need a good PG to relieve pressure off of B.Roy. Steve Blake aka the worst starting PG in the league ain't gonna cut it.
     
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    Toronto's $56M to Portland's $50M. Basically the Raptors offered a million more with a starting salary of $9.5-9.6M. The Blazers offer would start at $8.5-8.6M.

    It'll be interesting to know if the Blazers offer to Hedo would have required renouncing the rights to Freeland & Koponen?

    Houston can help Portland shed up to $5.47764M from their cap if the Blazers are still in pursuit of Turkoglu.

    Freeland ($989.04k), Koponen ($989.04k), and Claver ($1.21548M) all counted towards the Blazer's cap immediately the moment they were drafted in the first round.

    Fernandez ($1.16532M) and Batum ($1.11876M) can both be traded for a Rocket's TE from trading Steve Francis ($2.63448M)

    If $1 million is the difference they won't have to dump all 5 players to trump Toronto's offer. Perhaps as few as just one or a combination of two?

    What would make this work and not one-sided if they trade with the Rockets is that the Blazers have a significant enough TE of their own from trading Ike Diogu ($2.912823M).

    After making the extra cap space and signing Hedo they could have a handshake agreement to use that TE for Brooks or Lowry.

    1. TE (Francis) + rights to Taylor & Eliyahu for Fernandez +/or Batum +/or rights to Freeland &/or Koponen &/or Claver

    2. Blazers sign Hedo

    3. Brooks or Lowry for TE (Diogu)


    This hurts the Rockets the most if they are targeting Bosh in a trade. Rockets need to help the Blazers get the necessary cap space and pick up some young assets for themselves in the process... :)
     
  10. Deckard

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    How would you feel if we got Fernandez in a deal involving Battier? Would he be happy, you think?
     
  11. Yonkers

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    I think that might be true for league minimum guys, not for proven players who can command that amount of money. Those young guys or unproven guys have to take as much as they can now because they might only last 1-3 years, so they go wherever they can. Guys like Turkoglu know they have years ahead of them making millions. Now, if the Raptors were offering him the money Orlando is paying for Rashard then I can understand.
     
  12. saitou

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    worzel gummidge, if they can't get Hedo how about:

    How about Battier + Brooks for Blake + Fenandez + resigned Frye on 1 yr deal to make up salary difference.

    Blazers upgrade their two weakest positions PG and SF. Brooks is a hometown boy and a better fit on their team because Roy does the ball handling.

    On our side we fill the whole at SG, Blake can backup Lowry and Frye can be a 1 year stop gap at C. Best thing is we free up cap space for 2010 as Blake and Frye would be expirings. Swap Lowry for brooks and you can save even more... but I prefer Lowry :p
     
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    Hell ya he'd be stoked as would I and so would you. It would also be good for Battier and the Blazers. Battier is exactly what Portland needs. A savvy veteran who can help guide the Blazers through tough times. He'd also be a lock down defender on Kobe since Portland will be contenders next year. Battier deserves to go to a team contending and Portland would be a great fit.

    As for Rudy if we were to get him I'd be ecstatic to see him in Rocket Red. It's jacked up that Portland tried bumping him in favor of an old sluggish Hedo. I know Rudy is not quite ready to be a starter on a contending team but for us he'd be perfect. I truly believe he has the talent/tools/skill set to be a 18-20 point per game scorer. A hustler that has good athleticism, a nice first step that knows how to run the break and a nice stroke to top it off that's only 24? Yes please. Where do I sign?

    Offer Portland Battier for Rudy and change to match salaries. Offer Scola and Mcgrady to Phoenix for Amare.

    Brooks
    Fernandez
    Ariza
    Landry
    Amare

    What a nice young core.
     
  14. Sajan

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    ESPN guy was saying..it wasn't just about the money. it's about the city..supposedly Toronto has more of a Turkish fan base and it's faster flying to Turkey from Toronto than Portland.
     
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    It was also about his wife preferring Toronto. One article said she was the major factor in the decision.
     
  16. Rocket86

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    Whatever reason it may be, Let Hedo be responsible for his actions. Wish him well in Toronto and hope He continues his great play with the Raptors.
     
  17. Big MAK

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    I dont see the addition of Hedo to the Raptors making that much of a difference. They are still going to be a .500 team, and I don't see them making it out of the first round. If they do, they will lose in the second.

    That being so, I don't think it will change Bosh's mind about leaving next year. He still may stay, but I dont think the addiiton of Hedo will affect his mind.
     
  18. roslolian

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    I'm not so sure about that. If you looked at the Raptor's performance last season they started on a tear as Bosh was jus fresh from his Olmpics exp and was playing like a true franchis player (clutch, scoring, rebounding defense you name it he did it). Then the lack of wing production got to them and Bosh lost his fire. With someone like Hedo coming on board I expect Bosh to start playing well again. Bosh, Calderon and Hedo with Bargnani+ scrubs are good enough to make the playoffs in the east.
     
  19. Rocket86

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    Hedo will bring the Raptors back to the playoffs. He will create mismatches and allow Bosh some easy looks down post. Teams will have to respect his offense and slack off a bit with Bosh, making Bosh's life easy and allow Him to score more.
     
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    Calderon
    Parker (?)
    Hedo
    Bosh
    Bargs

    thats a pretty intriguing line up. obviously it's lacking any defensive toughness... but that's one dangerous team offensively.
     

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