Heat Continue Discussions With Rockets For Alston 7-25-07

With Scola for offense... we only really need a chuck hayes type player with more size. Foster certainly fits that bill and doesn't come at a premium.

 

Maybe waiting till February to trade Rafer is not a bad idea. We can wait and see if James/Francis work at the 1. And if Bonzi is no show again (I have a feeling he will be, hope i'm proven wrong) we can run James/Rafer at the 1, and Francis to log most of his minutes at the back-up 2. I think Head is one dimensional and should be traded.

 

We have too many on the roster. How is a 1 for 2 deal going to help solve that problem? Who do you want to cut?

 

with the FA pool of PG's drying up (knight possibly to clippers/ pargo possibly to olympiakos), and available PG's in trade dwindling (the wiz show little interest in the heat's offer for navarro), the heat will become desperate soon.

desperate doesn't mean haslem. think of it this way, before we made any roster moves this summer would you have traded shane for mike james? no. nor would they trade haslem for rafer.

when the heat get desperate, they may throw a pick in the deal to get it done. i'd take the salary dump plus a pick for rafer.

FYI, the rockets don't need to go into thier MLE next year to sign bonzi because he would have been with us for 2 years. steve and butler should be resigned using that money.

 

Don't you think that waiting until February might make Rafer lose trade value? That's one thing I'm worried about with waiting to trade him because if MJ and Francis get the minutes, Rafer won't play and this could lose to less trade value, plus it gives Miami alot more time to find someone else.

 

What is this irrational love affair with Jeff Foster...

The guy is a stiff....period.

I want youth, talent, athleticism and skill. No more one dimensional wonders!

Now that we have a solid core we need to work on future development - players that will contribute when Bonzi, Steve, James, Deke, etc. go away.

Balance is how dynastys are built.

The worst thing we can do is mortgage the future (as we have done in the past - Cato, Taylor, Maloney, Price, anderson, Norris, etc.) when we are not guaranteed of anything yet. This current core STILL has to prove themselves.

Haslem works, Miller works (not going to happen), NOT Foster!

 

thats what i was thinking. Jeff foster? really??

 

Define talent and skill.

 

This should really be a new thread..

*************** has rafer going to heat, a signed posey going to sacto and shareef coming to houston... I'd be pretty happy with that... I'd still prefer Haslem as he's younger and a much better defensive player.

Here's the link
http://www.***************/article_22865.shtml

 

dam I hate being a rookie! Hoops world . com is what I was trying to say.

 

Who is Miller? Haven't dug through this thread.

 

Too bad that players who meet those criterias come at a premium.
Rafer Alston sure as hell won't get you a player like that.

 

That's a pretty poor way to justify not going after Foster. You need to examine the team's needs right now. If we time traveled to last season with that roster, I would agree with you hands down. But now, seeing as how we've added youth (Brooks, Butler, Scola), talent (James, Francis, Scola, Butler, Brooks), athleticism (all the above), and skill (all the above)..we need to start piecing together complimentary players. Foster provides a fierce defensive inside presence that you DESPERATELY need against Western Conference PF's. That has and always will be our undoing for the past 5 years...western conference PF's that kick ass and take names of players.
So, on the contrary the BEST thing we can do now is get Foster, Varaejo, or somebody like them whose competent against other PF's and can keep Yao from getting into foul trouble.

 

WTF - SAR is the exact opposite of what we need. A soft big who can't rebound or play defense. Decent offensive game but offense isn't our problem right now. Plus his contract blows, we traded away Juwan for a reason, lets not trade for his clone.

Plus its hoops-world so you know its not true.

 

Talent, and skill means multidimensional abilities ...additional abilities other than simply rebounding. You are talking Foster here not Rodman. That is a totallly different ball game. We can achieve the same results and more with someone else (eg. Haslem, Collison, Gooden, etc.) Even Varaejo offers more...significantly more. We already have a rebounding only PF in Hayes. Why do we need another one?

 

true, but you'd think if you could trade Rafer for Doleac now, you could probably do it anytime. i doubt anyone else is seriously after Doleac.

And if the Heat stink it up at the beginning of the year with the current roster, it is probably because they have poor PG play.

The danger with waiting is the Heat pick up someone else's PG (maybe Ridnour or Watson from Seattle), or that they suck so bad to start the season, that they just scrap the entire season and put their hopes on a deep PG draft in 08 (which it looks like it will be, but with Shaq closing in on retirement, I don't see how this helps them much in the short-term).

 

Yup, plus I actually sacrificed two minutes of my life to go onto that garbage website to read this report. Pure speculation on the part of the writer. Nothing more.

 

Doleac for Alston is a lose situation for Rockets IMO.

Unless Doleac is being brought in to be 2nd team C (means no Deke) as he would complement Bonzi's game better than either Butler or Mutombo.

However, I would rather have Posey (S&T) and Simien/2nd for Alston.

Posey could then be packaged with expiring contracts (after Aug or Sep - Sura, Reed, Snyder, Butler) for a legit big (w/an ugly contract like LaFrentz) & picks and/or rights to players still in Europe (i.e. Rudy Fernandez).

Even if Posey is not traded, he is another glue guy with size, 3 range and D. This would make the one dimensional Head even more expendable.

 

Sure, I'd like Kevin Garnett, too. But what happens when McHale refuses to trade him for Rafer Alston? Can we settle for Foster if Garnett and other options are not available? This is not to say that Foster would even be available for Alston.

 

Yeah but than we end up playing 4 on 5 again, back to where we were last year.. that's useless, we're trying to improve everywhere, not stay the same.. just think we can get more than a foster for Rafer, rafer is a pretty decent PG, and I think if we throw in Head it'll work out well for us.