Heat Continue Discussions With Rockets For Alston 7-25-07

Bobcats is another team. would anyone here be interested in sean may?. granted he is a injury prone player, but he has a ton of potential. wouldnt mind rolling the dice on him.

 

I suppose whatever they have left of the MLE wouldn't sign Barnes, who they could move to the Rocks for Alston in a S&T. (someone(s) would have to be tossed in there to make the salaries match) Oh, well. I sure would like to lose 2 or 3 of our end of the bench players, plus Alston, and end up with a pick and Barnes. Or "just Barnes." (I want Barnes, lol!)

 

I was very interested in Barnes all offseason. I think he really would have been an excellent player for the Rockets or Heat--bringing them athleticism , solid all around game, and the ability to mix and match at the 3-4-2 positions, around their superstars. Both teams struggle with the athletic perimeter squads like the Bulls, Suns and Mavs and Barnes would have been part of the match-up answer.

But with each team breaking up the MLE for Scola and (apparently) Parker I think they are out of serious play for Barnes. Hopefully Scola works out for us.

 

I think the Heat are out of the picture as a possible destination for Alston now. That leaves which teams still looking for a PG? Cleveland and...?

 

I would gladly trade Rafer for Sean May. Since the Bobcats are under the salary cap, they could take on Rafer (who makes over twice as much as May) in a straight-up trade. May would give the Rockets a Charles Barkley-type banger under the basket. We'll just have to see if Bob Johnson is willing to continue to allow Michael Jordan to pony up this offseason for better talent. Rafer as a backup to Felton would give the Bobcats some nice talent at the PG position.

Resulting Roster:

Francis/James/Brooks
McGrady/Head/Snyder
Battier/Wells/Novak
Scola/May/Hayes/Landry
Yao/Butler

Sura - waived
JLIII - traded for 2nd rounder
Deke - not re-signed
Harris - waived during/after pre-season
Reed - traded; if not, either Hayes or Landry won't be on the team next year

 

A re-signed Pavlovic or Varejao for Rafer and a pal would be nice.

 

I dont think the cats would trade rafer for may straight up since they turned down the 17 pick from the Nets prior to this years draft for him. As for your opinion that May is a Barkley type banger, that is rediculous. May doesnt bang with anyone. He is a finesse big man, who is overweight and always injured. I live in Charlotte and saw him about a month ago and he was pudgy and on crutches.

 

I'm not sure if I want to trade Alston, but if we do then I would love to have May. His PER is 19.31! You can take that with a grain of salt, as he only played 35 games, but if he keeps that up then he's a top 40-50 player in the L today.

I know there's risk with the weight and injury, but remaining at a 19 PER makes him the 3rd best rocket on our team ALREADY. He's young, cheap, and may already have a rift with his coach:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2819675Bickerstaff challenges
March 30, 2007
May to lose weight, get fit
Charlotte Bobcats coach Bernie Bickerstaff challenged injured forward Sean May on Friday to lose weight and get into better shape before next season.

Charlotte does it because they need a PG and are overloaded at PF. They have Okafor starting and can get more playing time for Herrman by trading May. We do it because we need PF help and May can likely produce as a starter or backup

We give them cap relief and roster room by taking back O. Harrington to make the salaries work. This also frees up possible 3rd string minutes for Davidson, a PF they recently signed.

 

Well, then we're trading 2 for 1...hmmm that's obviously not helping. We could cut Othella but that's wasteful...

Maybe trading for May would need to be a three team deal. I'm willing to trade any of Rafer, Sura, Novak, JIII, Reed to make it happen. I would throw in Head too if we get more in return.

 

We don't need to match salaries in any trade with Charlotte. They are significantly under the cap and can absorb Rafer's salary easily in exchange for the cheaper May.

 

Charlotte is not going to trade for Rafer, give up May, and lose more cap space. They have been stockpiling cap space for years to sign a max type player and blew almost all their cap space on Richardson, a resigned Matt Carroll, and a resigned Gerald Wallace. Not terrible moves, but hardly the max type player they dream of in Charlotte to sell tickets

They also have the looming extension of Okafor and eventually Felton. Yes they do need PG help, but they arent giving up a May who is on his rookie deal to get Alston and absorb his salary.

Whats amazing to me is Charlotte only has the rights to 13 players. Houston somehow has the rights to 23 players. Therefore, I cant imagine any 2-1 deal where Houston ends up with two bobcats players in exchange for Alston, which was proposed by someone talking about making salaries match.

 

Charlotte don't have to give up any players to get Rafer. It's ludicrous to suggest cap space is an issue when they're just above the league minimum for team salary.

 

That's incorrect.Charlotte was just above the league minimum last year. After trading for Richardson and re-signing Herrmann and Wallace, they now have $57.4M committed for next season. That means that they are actually $1.7M over the cap next year. So, if Charlotte were to want to trade for Alston, they'll have to take back at least 75% of his salary.

 

heh, reading post after post. Only teams we can realistically make trades with are scrub teams or teams overloaded at PF. That means Seattle or Boston. We can make a trade of Alston for Gomez. They would never give up Jefferson.

 

Trading for Richardson didn't put them over the league minimum. Herrmann had a team option.

According to here
http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/charlotte.htm
it's $42,769,897 not including Matt Carroll's contract (27M/6yrs) which is under 3M and Jermareo Davidson for the rookie minimum at $427,163.

The league minimum is $41.723M

Bobcats team salary is around 46M

 

This actually makes sense...below is a post from a Celtics Board.

http://my.nba.com/thread.jspa?threadID=300005287&messageID=300213706

This is what I would do as GM of the Boston Celtics: They have a major weakness on the 1 spot, with an underachieving Sebastian Telfair, and a not yet NBA-ready Rajon Rondo (don't get me wrong, I like Rondo, but he can "just" pass the ball, he is not able to sink some shots). So I suppose the best move for them would be to get a good or at least above average point guard. They should make a 3-team-trade with the Houston Rockets and the New Orleans Hornets, sending Tony Allen and Sebastian Telfair to the NO Hornets, while the Hornets send David West to the Houston Rockets and the Rockets send Rafer Alston to the Celtics and every's teams needs would be pleased; and here are the reasons for that:
1. The Celtics are in need of a PG, but Telfair was no good choice for them, and Tony Allen is a good wing player but does not necessarily need to stay in Boston because with Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Gerald Green, Allan Ray, Ryan Gomez and Brandan Wallace they have enough players for the wing position SG-SF
2. The Houston Rockets are obviously in desperate need of a PF, with only average players like Chuck Hayes, Carl Landry, Steve Novak and Justin Reed on the Bench. David West is a good developing kid with a bright future if he would start for a good team like Houston. He might not seem like a good option first but don't forget that he scored 18 points, catched 8 rebounds and had 2 assist per game in only 35 minutes on the field for the Hornets.
3. With solid performers on the PG position the Rockets don't need Alston on their bench as the 3rd or 4th PG in the Rotation. Furthermore Alston could prove what he is worth in Boston and finally be a starter and a leader in the NBA for the Celtics.

SO PLEASE DANNY AINGE IF YOU READ THIS GET RAFER ON YOUR TEAM!!!!

 

Why would NO do this trade?

 

I'd love to have David West on this team, but what that break-down did not include is why in the hell the Hornets would trade West only to get Telfair and Tony Allen in return. They wouldn't.

 

Also they offered Wallace a 57M deal maybe you got those figures mixed?

 

Well ok, David West is a stud..so you're right. NO might not want to do this. So again, we are back to Collison or maybe a Pryzbilla.