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Heart Attacks up 30%

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tinman, Feb 27, 2023.

  1. Astrodome

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    Not discounting anything at this point.
     
  2. Amiga

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    Unfortunately, it's not rare and the rate has risen the most for younger / healthier folks :(. BTW, I purposely put dates on these articles because we are still learning new things, and our understanding continues to evolve.

    https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/covid-19-surges-linked-to-spike-in-heart-attacks/
    Oct 24, 2022

      • In the year before the pandemic, there were 143,787 heart attack deaths; within the first year of the pandemic, this number had increased by 14% to 164,096.
      • The excess in acute myocardial infarction-associated mortality has persisted throughout the pandemic, even during the most recent period marked by a surge of the presumed less-virulent Omicron variant.
      • Researchers found that although acute myocardial infarction deaths during the pandemic increased across all age groups, the relative rise was most significant for the youngest group, ages 25 to 44.
      • By the second year of the pandemic, the “observed” compared to “predicted” rates of heart attack death had increased by 29.9% for adults ages 25-44, by 19.6% for adults ages 45-64, and by 13.7% for adults age 65 and older.

    “There are several potential explanations for the rapid rise in cardiac deaths in patients with COVID-19, yet still many unanswered questions,” said Yeo. “Importantly, our results highlight disparities in mortality that have emerged from the COVID-19 pandemic and that are persisting even through the Omicron era.”

    The possible explanations, Yeo said, include that COVID-19 may trigger or accelerate the presentation of preexisting coronary artery disease, even in younger adults.


    Reasons for the spike in heart-related conditions could also be related to psychological and social challenges associated with the pandemic, including job loss and other financial pressures that can cause acute or chronic stress leading to cardiac disease.

    The research team members say they have long known that infections such as the flu can increase risk for heart disease and heart attack, but the sharp rise in heart attack deaths is like nothing seen before.

    “There is something very different about how this virus affects the cardiac risks,” said Susan Cheng, MD, MPH, director of the Institute for Research on Healthy Aging in the Department of Cardiology at the Smidt Heart Institute and senior and co-corresponding author of the study. “The difference is likely due to a combination of stress and inflammation, arising from predisposing factors and the way this virus biologically interacts with the cardiovascular system.”

    Yeo, Cheng and the broader Smidt Heart Institute team hope that greater awareness and more research will expand the medical community’s ability to manage and mitigate these risks.
     
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  3. AroundTheWorld

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    When I said rare, I was talking about the vaccine-related heart problems.

    Also, this all goes back to how evil the CCP is.
     
  4. LosPollosHermanos

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    I would say it’s more so covid itself. **** ****s your vessels up, so inflammatoey
     
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  5. tinman

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    When are these people going to stop with their definitive bullshiet? For the last 3 years they have spewed one definitive fact after another about Covid and many have turned out wrong. They shut down discussion if you disagreed with their so-called fact or just merely raising questions about their supposed “fact “. Now that they’re proven wrong on so many things about Covid, their arrogant attitude just makes them suck even more.
     
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  7. Ubiquitin

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    Immune-naive COVID infections can go on for 10+ days and that’s when the systemic inflammatory effects are seen: DVT, PE, Stroke. This cytokine storm coupled with severe pneumonia is why it was killing people.
    The mRNA vaccines decreased duration and severity of disease for those who got them (spoiler: almost everyone). Observationally reported, the vaccines reduced COVID infections but I think reality is they blunted the infections and people were still getting infected at the same rate. They just were not getting as sick. So the booster vaccines going forward are probably going to be recommend for people at high risk. Infection with COVID-19 also offers this protection, but it came with getting infected with COVID-19.

    The mRNA vaccines do not cause heart attacks. There is a rare but well publicized side effect of myocarditis in young men, specifically associated the Moderna. But myocarditis is generalized inflammation of the heart. A heart attack is defined as an acute arterial occlusion of a coronary artery causing ischemia and myocardial infarction. While both myocarditis and MI can cause heart dysfunction and arrhythmias, there is no meaningful reporting about the permanence of vaccine related myocarditis. Even the myocarditis sequela from actual COVID 19 is likely overstated. Other well documented side effects from the vaccine include: anaphylaxis and for JnJ vaccine which was pulled clotting and a paralysis syndrome (GBS).

    But the window of efficacy of the mRNA vaccines is closing. We have all had COVID and/or been vaccinated. There was not a winter spike of COVID-19. These are fantastic things.
     
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  8. AroundTheWorld

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    Severe myocarditis weakens the heart so that the rest of the body doesn't get enough blood. Clots can form in the heart, leading to a stroke or heart attack.

    It's just incorrect to speak in absolutes and say that the vaccines do not cause heart attacks. It's true that most cases of vaccine-related myocarditis are reported as mild, but not all of them.
     
  9. rocketsjudoka

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    I will keep on saying it again that if the vaccines were as deadly as some make them out to be it would be impossible to hide given that billions have taken the vaccines including a fair amount of Clutchfans. What many of us do know is that getting COVID itself presents a far greater risk and many of us know people who have been very ill or even died from COVID.

    Yes there is a correlation between the vaccine and myocarditis that is very rare and has frequently noted correlation isn’t causation.
     
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    OK Clarence. You’re right if a patient develops mRNA induced myocarditis and go on to experience severe heart failure that they have a risk of developing LV thrombus. And then there is a risk of that LV thrombus breaking off and causing ACS or a CVA.

    But the odds of each event are very low and cumulatively it might be 1 in a hundred million to 1 in a billion. Therefore it’s valid to say it does not cause a heart attack.

    I would gamble (the following is opinion) that more viewers have suffered heart attacks from watching the Rockets and the Texans over the last two years than there are patients who have had mRNA vaccine induced myocarditis complicated by permanent cardiomyopathy. And I would still say that watching the Rockets does not cause heart attacks.
     
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  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Should also be noted that the virus is 5x times likely to cause this than the vaccine, and the virus does it at a very low level. And...because the vaccine mitigates the impact of the virus on your body, it might actually be protecting you from heart attacks when you consider the likelihood of exposure to the virus down the road.
     
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    People also stopped going to their Doctor for a while. I think that is a contributing factor.
     
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    C u chubbsters at the Woodlands Marathon this weekend.

    Hopefully I do not die of a heart attack while running.
     
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  15. rocketsjudoka

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    I’ve stopped watching the Rockets for my health.
     
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  16. tinman

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    If you listen to the Demi Lovato song 'Heart Attack'
    it might hurt your
    ears
     
  17. dmoneybangbang

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    True Rockets fan posting links to articles..... Boomers posting youtube clips as sources. Boomers getting their news from Russel Brand..... @tinman
     
  18. basso

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    Cancer too.

     
  19. Xerobull

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    This is a bullshit cherry-picking stats graph straight out of Facebook. Is The Ethical Skeptic an accepted scientific journal? Isn't she a climate change denier?

    Also: What types of cancer?

    The Antivaxers just clamoring for any reason at all to scream about it.

    I do honestly want to know the facts.
     
  20. basso

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    I've been vaxxed three times.
     

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