The majority of the public makes Andy out to be a saint. If he says he used it to heal from an injury, then that's one thing. However, to say you used it an X amount of times...and then change that answer again...when its quite obvious he must have used it more often than he is stating...well, I have a problem with that. He keeps making these public statements on his own about his usage, when its quite obvious to me and others that he is continually lying. There is nothing respectful about that. Either man up and tell the whole truth or just shut the F up...what Andy is doing is stupid, IMO.
A-Rod speaks about Pettitte's credibility: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2008/news/story?id=3254709&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines "Andy is one of the greatest human beings I've ever met," Rodriguez said. "I have two daughters -- well, I have one and one on the way. If I had a daughter, I would want 'em to marry Andy Pettitte. The age difference might be a little awkward, but in today's day and age anything is possible."
Uh Oh: A young man who attended the Conseco part when he was 11 apparently has a photo of Clemens at said party.
Hey no big deal...................he just "misrembered"........ New Surgeon General warning should be placed on all bottles of HGH and Steroids: "May cause Misrememberedness." (it appears it first effected Pettite, now Clemens)
This is getting good. You can't make stuff like this up: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...roger_clemens_may_have_joked_about_wifes.html Roger Clemens may have joked about wife's chat with Jessica Canseco By TERI THOMPSON, CHRISTIAN RED, NATHANIEL VINTON and MICHAEL O'KEEFFE DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITERS Tuesday, February 26th 2008, 3:11 AM Congress is believed to have received new evidence over the past 10 days that may further undermine Roger Clemens' sworn testimony that he did not attend a suddenly notorious 1998 party at Jose Canseco's South Florida home. The Daily News has learned that in the days since the Feb. 13 public hearing on steroids in baseball, another major leaguer has informed congressional investigators that Clemens often joked in the clubhouse about a memorable account of the party - a scene in which Debbie Clemens and Canseco's ex-wife Jessica compared the results of their surgical breast enhancements. The new revelation adds to the probability that Congress will make a criminal referral of the matter to the Justice Department, which lawyers on both sides have told the News was always a likelihood. Clemens' accuser Brian McNamee, in sworn testimony on Feb. 7 before lawyers for the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, had already shared the anecdote to explain why the party was memorable. The 1998 Canseco party is crucial because it was there that Clemens allegedly talked about steroids - and may have even used them for the first time, McNamee has said. "I think he got it at Canseco's house," McNamee said in a secretly recorded Dec. 12 conversation at his home with private investigators working for Clemens' lawyer Rusty Hardin. "As far as the government and Mitchell, they know that he got the Winstrol at a party; and that's when he did Winstrol." At the time, a conflicted McNamee wanted to warn Clemens' of his inclusion in the imminent Mitchell Report. At that point, McNamee had been an informant for the government and Mitchell for months. He told Hardin's men the government had indicated to him they could link Clemens to a drug deal at the party. "And somehow, whoever else the government is talking to, said that he got them there in Florida," McNamee said, referring to steroids. "(They said) that some guy walked into a room with him and Canseco and that's how they got the drugs, the Winstrol." Nearly two months later, now decidedly at war with his former client, McNamee would relay to the committee the specific story placing Clemens, Canseco and their wives at the party. Clemens has vehemently disputed such claims under oath. Canseco gave Congress an affidavit stating Clemens did not attend the party. "I mean, they talked - no disrespect, but they talked about how great Jose's wife's augmentation job was to Debbie and showed her," McNamee said. "And then Debbie showed her her augmentation job." As the Daily News has reported, the committee could decide to refer Clemens, McNamee or both to the Justice Department this week. McNamee's lawyers have said they expect that to happen. The Justice Department could launch an investigation to determine which man is lying then, or make the move independently. The feds are already looking into instances in which Clemens refuted the testimony of McNamee, with whom they signed a proffer agreement last summer requiring McNamee to tell them the truth. Hardin backed off Clemens' denials about being at the party after the Daily News reported last week about the existence of a photo that may link Clemens to the party. The photo is owned by a young man who attended the party when he was 11 years old and took photos of his baseball heroes, including Clemens. That photo is believed to be among the pieces of evidence (along with blood-stained medical refuse) being reviewed by IRS special agent Jeff Novitzky and prosecutor Matthew Parrella, who have much broader investigative power than the committee's attorneys did. The two men have spent five years leading the government's BALCO prosecution, and have already looked into the challenges Clemens made against McNamee, who agreed to cooperate with them and Mitchell in exchange for immunity. Likely witnesses in a federal probe could include Kelly Blair, a distant relative of Andy Pettitte who supplied human growth hormone to Pettitte's father, who then shared it with the Yankee pitcher in 2004. Earlier this month, the News revealed that 1-on-1 Elite Personal Fitness (Blair's gym in Pasadena, Texas) was a source of performance-enhancing drugs that wasn't identified in the Mitchell Report.
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/subwaysquawkers/2008/02/on-that-boob-roger-clemens.html February 26, 2008 On that boob Roger Clemens As Michael Corleone said in “Godfather III,” just when I try to get out, they pull me back in. And although even I’m getting sick of writing about Roger Clemens, the story has new twists and turns worth covering. So I’ll be back to current Yankees soon enough, but I feel like I ought to write about the latest Clemens revelations first. Get your popcorn ready. I’ll tell you what, nothing says class and dignity like women comparing boob jobs. But apparently, that’s what happened with Debbie Clemens and Jessica Canseco at Jose Canseco’s infamous 1998 pool party for the Toronto Blue Jays. And it only gets better (or worse, depending on your taste level): The Daily News has learned that in the days since the Feb. 13 public hearing on steroids in baseball, another major leaguer has informed congressional investigators that Clemens often joked in the clubhouse about a memorable account of the party - a scene in which Debbie Clemens and Canseco’s ex-wife Jessica compared the results of their surgical breast enhancements. Wow, what a guy. And I don’t know what’s more sleazy - his wife joking about her plastic breasts, or him joking about her joking about her plastic breasts. Good grief. Besides, I’m still scratching my head over why Clemens and his attorneys thought that denying that he was at Jose Canseco’s 1998 party was such a winning defense. It’s not just that Canseco insinuated in his book “Juiced” that Roger himself was on the juice. It’s not just that Jose verified in that book that baseball players used the phrase “B-12 shot” as a euphemism for steroids. It’s also that Clemens and his lawyers didn’t count on other people in the party having long memories. First, you have the nanny, who Clemens tracked down and invited over to his house the Sunday before the House hearings to interview.her. (Oh, that’s right, he was “just doing y’all a favor” by talking to her beforehand.) The nanny remembers the Clemens staying over at the Cansecos. Then you have the story in the Daily News last week that there apparently are photos of Clemens at Canseco’s party, taken by an 11-year-old at the event. Despite all the previous denials, that revelation prompted the Rocket’s attorney, Rusty Hardin to say this: Roger was playing golf at the time of the party, and has stated that he may have stopped by the Canseco house after playing golf before heading to the ballpark for the game. Again, what was the point of Clemens’ attorneys making a big deal about this party in the first place? It really was a footnote, at best, to the Mitchell Report’s revelations. And even if Roger never set foot in Canseco’s home, it doesn’t mean that he’s innocent of using performance-enhancing drugs. I do think Brian McNamee’s attorneys are making a mistake in trying to get Rusty Hardin removed as the Rocket’s attorney. Why would they want to get rid of the guy? Now there’s a report that House investigators have drafted a letter to investigate whether Clemens lied to Congress. So, it looks like the Rocket’s world of trouble is just beginning. As today’s Daily News’ back page says, what a boob!
I hope A-rod remembers this wish. Weirder things have happened - 16 years is quite a short time. Quite amuzing though
This is all getting r****dED. If is was a normal guy doing all these shxt to congress/media .. he would be LOCKED UP already. but oh because is Roger Clemens it seems all diff. ***** him and LOCK his FAT ASS UP!
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/20/sports/baseball/20clemens.html Clemens to Be Indicted for Perjury in Doping Testimony Federal authorities have decided to indict Roger Clemens on charges of making false statements to Congress about his use of performance-enhancing drugs, according to two people briefed on the matter. An announcement is expected later today. The indictment comes nearly two and half years after Clemens and his former trainer Brian McNamee testified under oath at a hearing before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, directly contradicting each other about whether Clemens had used the banned substances. The committee held the hearing in February 2008, just two months after McNamee first tied Clemens to the use of the substances in George J. Mitchell’s report on the use of performance-enhancing drugs in baseball. After Mitchell released the report, Clemens launched an attack on McNamee, saying he made up the allegations. Federal authorities had McNamee cooperate with federal authorities in 2008 to avoid charging him with steroid distribution.
I've been manning the Hair Balls desk for the Houston Press today (will tomorrow as well) and just posted this: http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2010/08/roger_clemens_to_be_indicted_f.php Roger Clemens testified before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform over two years ago saying that his former trainer Brian McNamee had lied about his use of steroids. Today, federal authorities have decided the former Houston Astro pitcher lied under oath and have indicted him on perjury charges. Clemens was accused of using steroids by McNamee, who claimed he helped administer the drugs, in a report to congress in 2008. The widely discussed Mitchell Report documented the use of performance enhancing drugs in Major League Baseball and brought allegations against numerous big name players including Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa and Mark McGwire. While McNamee didn't exactly come across as the most reputable witness, he wasn't the first to accuse Clemens of using PED's. Jose Canseco suggested Clemens may have used steroids in his book Juiced: Wild Times, Rampant 'Roids, Smash Hits & How Baseball Got Big. Clemens was also mentioned more than 80 times in the Mitchell Report. Clemens former teammate and close friend, Andy Pettite, admitted to using steroids on several occasions and apologized. He also said he remembered Clemens telling him that he had used HGH to which Clemens claimed Pettite "misremembered." Since the hearings, Clemens has been busy fending off accusations of steroids to anyone who will listen, including Mike Wallace of 60 Minutes, and dealing with allegations of an alleged affair with Mindy McCready that supposedly began when she was only 15. Despite all the controversy and the fact that he recently turned 48-years-old, the Rocket left open the possibility of joining a major league at some point this year, but has yet to do so. He is considered, based on his performance on the field, a lock for the Baseball Hall of Fame, but the steroid allegations have the potential to keep one of the greatest pitchers ever out of the Hall.
doesnt this mean clemens is screwed. if the government comes with an indictment dont they win most the time?
They do - but we also heard the same with the Barry Bonds stuff and that hasn't worked out yet for the Feds. I'm not sure if that's still in-process or not. Clemens seems to have a bizarre mix of lies, half-truths, and distortions. But whether anything can be proven with perjury, I have no idea.
