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[Hearing of the Century] Clemens v. McNamee

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by tulexan, Feb 13, 2008.

  1. MadMax

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    I


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  2. DaDakota

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    Well, for someone that doesn't know, nor apparently care, you sure post a lot about it in a very slanted direction.

    DD
     
  3. Jturbofuel

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    Nice to see that whorn edumacation at work.
     
  4. MadMax

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    mostly to counter your assumptions.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    Well fair enough.....I think you are being wishy washy.

    DD
     
  6. Rocketman95

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    That's rich.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    You too are being wishy washy.
     
  8. MadMax

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    I think you're jumping to conclusions. I don't have an opinion either way. If I found out he did it, I certainly wouldn't be shocked.
     
  9. Rocketman95

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    Please prove I'm being wishy washy. Or MadMax for that matter. How exactly are we being "wishy washy".
     
  10. MadMax

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    DaDa made up his mind ages ago on this.
     
  11. LongTimeFan

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    I think it's pretty naive to say you don't have an opinion on this when you've spent the entire thread complaining about DaDa's comments and the hearing in general. If I thought something was that absurd as you claim, I certainly would not have commented on it as much as you have. And if I didn't have an opinion either way on the topic, I wouldn't be so bothered my other people's opinions of it.

    That said, I was at a freakin job orientation all day - Does anyone know if this will be replayed or on the internet somewhere?
     
  12. DaDakota

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    Neither you nor Max is willing to actually put forth an opinion about whether or not you believe that Roger took the steroids.

    As I said, I believe he did it, but I would convict him because I believe there can be a case made for reasonable doubt.

    But, that doesn't change the fact that after reading everything and weighing ALL the testimony available to date, that I think he did it....because I do.

    DD
     
  13. MadMax

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    My opinions have been related to the process (or lack thereof) and the rush to judgment.
     
  14. Rocketman95

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    My opinion about the situation has never changed. I have no idea whether or not he's taken steroids and I honestly wouldn't be surprised either way. If having that has my opinion makes me "wishy washy", so be it.

    I'm not going to force myself to have a certain opinion to make you happy DaDakota.
     
  15. MadMax

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    If I believed Roger DID or DID NOT do it....why in the world do you think I'd be scared to tell you, Da Da. How important do you think I think you are in the scheme of all this?

    I have a differnet perspective on this than you, Da Da. That's it. Call me whatever you wish.
     
  16. msn

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    There--fixed that for ya.
     
  17. rezdawg

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    And I think his assumption was spot on.

    On a side note, I think McNamee shot more than just HGH into Clemens' wife when Roger was away.
     
  18. LongTimeFan

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    But they have all been one-sided. Even when the hypothetical situation of finding steroids and Clemens DNA in the same needle was presented to you, you said "Well then.. I'd want to know more about the testing". It's kind of silly to say you're neutral at this point. You've been one of Clemens (rhester :mad: NOT clement s) biggest supporters since this broke out. I know you love baseball and don't want any of your kid's or your baseball heroes to be tainted. I also understand your profession has trained you to think in concrete facts that lead to a certain logic, while any gaps leading to that logic would make you think the logic to be more or less incorrect.

    Personally I think he's guilty, but I have my opinions just like you or RM95 does. I just don't like you saying you're unsure of how you feel after everything you've said.
     
  19. Buck Turgidson

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    Why is this so ****ing difficult for people to understand?

    DD, why do you care so much what anybody here, there, or yon thinks about this situation?
     
  20. Rocketman95

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    Gosh MadMax, better come up with a different opinion!
     

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