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[HEADS UP] Shane will be on Rome today

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Nice Rollin, Mar 3, 2009.

  1. theogcasey

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    No, Allen Iverson has proven himself by making the NBA Finals. Allen Iverson has proven himself by winning an MVP title.

    People have been riding the Carmelo bandwagon since his days at Syracuse but what has he done to raise himself to elite status in the league? I'm not saying Shane Battier is a much better player than him, because their roles on the team are completely different. For someone that is a supposed superstar, Carmelo Anthony hasn't done much of anything in his 6 or so years.
     
  2. candlegreen

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    For a team to be entirely successful? I would say so.

    You have to build a perfect team to fit Iverson's needs. Basically, you need a team that does not care to shoot, but able to take a jumper. You need a 6th man that could score. You need a team based on defense and plays great defensively. You then need a defensive minded coach where the entire process includes the entire team going back on transition defense and allowing Iverson to play 1 on 5.

    When Iverson was in his prime, he can score. His defense, even on the year that he was in the finals was atrocious at best. Mutumbo was back there grabbing foul after foul trying to pick up the dribble penetration. Eric Snow was a perfect compliment because he hits a midrange jumper and played great defense during those days. McKie was very underrated as a defender.

    It should be no suprise that the Iverson/Webber combination did not work out. Both of them demands the ball.
     
  3. Eat The Head

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    one basketball insight: this team wants to win, as long as yao ming is the center piece, this team needs to find players who can help yao ming becoming the scoring leader of the league.
     
  4. Eat The Head

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    so scoring 33 point in a quarter is overrated?
     
  5. RocketJoe

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    Jim Rome is over rated
     
  6. Eat The Head

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  7. theogcasey

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    Let's get this straight... I never said he wasn't good, I said he is overrated. Anyone can have a lights out game and drop 30+ in a quarter, but does that rightfully make him a superstar? Would Shane Battier be a superstar if he dropped 33 points in a quarter? Not at all. You just answered your own question smart a**.
     
  8. candlegreen

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    The basic argument is this: Shane Battier can fit in ANY system in the NBA. He can come off the bench and he can start and guard the opposing team's scorer. He uses great body leverage and knows how to harass an opposing team's best offensive weapons to no avail. Another example was watching Artest/Battier guarding Ilgauskas/Varejao the other day. Battier used his quickness and fronted like the best of them. His ability to adjust makes him one of the best team players in the NBA.

    Stars in the NBA are spoiled and overrated. These "stars" need the ball to operate because all it takes to be a star is to be a consistant scorer or a special case like a Jason Kidd who constantly gets stats. Heck, Antoine Walker used to be a star in this league and that guy couldn'y play an ounce of defense. In order for a team to work, you have to build a team around these stars in order to succeed. I would rather take someone that could easily fit in any team's schemes.

    What it came down to is this: most fans only see stats as the reason to why players are good or not. Marcus Camby is rated as a great defensive player because he blocks shots and gets defensive rebounds. Forget the fact that he can't guard anyone in the post. All his blocks are from help defense. He might be good in those regards, but I've never seen him successfully stop a person from posting on him. Michael Redd was a star, but can't do anything else other than shoot. Mo Williams is a star this year, but he can barely make a good chest pass. I have a feeling that if you ever speak to a Cavs player, coaching staff, or some of their fans, the'll tell you how much they appreciate someone like Delonte West.
     
  9. candlegreen

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    Or find a good set of complimentary players to take the load off. Shane Battier is one of the primary reasons as to why Yao gets to play that many minutes on the floor.
     
  10. Eat The Head

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    name one player who dropped 33 points in a quarter in the nba who's not a superstar or doesn't deserve to be a superstar
     
  11. jedicro

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    Uhhh...does anyone know when the intereview is?
     
  12. Eat The Head

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    the only person on this current team who believes yao ming still has the potential to be the best player in the leauge is shane battier, not even yao ming himself believes that.
     
  13. theogcasey

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    Dude, who have we been talking about this entire time? CARMELO ANTHONY!

    This is ridiculous.
     
  14. Eat The Head

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    if shane dropped 33 points in a quarter, then he is a superstar.
     
  15. Eat The Head

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    yea, back to shane plz.
     
  16. theogcasey

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    I disagree. If Shane dropped 33 in a quarter and followed it up by averaging only 9 ppg for the rest of his career, he would not be a superstar.
     
  17. Blake

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    who FREAKING cares?
     
  18. TesseracT

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    Did Shane just say that Boozer is one of his guys?


    Oh lord
     
  19. kaleidosky

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    BAN for ridiculous statement?
     
  20. Eat The Head

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    get mike dunleavy from the pacers to make shane happy!
     

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