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Head is a low IQ ballhog

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by canoner2002, Mar 21, 2006.

  1. ktvoss

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    Again, he's a rookie. Not a vet. College is different than the NBA.
     
  2. declan32001

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    I don't get the Cat comparison, but clearly Luther's had an up and down rookie year. Most rookies do. And he might never be as good as Cat.

    You're just depressing yourself tonight beyond reason. If you're enjoying it, that's cool. :cool:
     
  3. canoner2002

    canoner2002 Contributing Member

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    right. it take 5 year experience in the league to make a entry pass to the most dominant center in the league who is 7-6 and who has his guy sealed behind him.
     
  4. canoner2002

    canoner2002 Contributing Member

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    Cat was very reluctant to make the entry pass to Yao back then. that is why i like JJ playing on the same side of the court with Yao.
     
  5. ktvoss

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    It takes 1 year at least.
     
  6. ima_drummer2k

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    It's not as easy as you make it sound...
     
  7. Yetti

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    For me I consider Head as One of the very few bright moments of the 2005-06 Houston Rockets, for a young rookie. In my book he is one of the very few keepers for next season along with Yao Ming.
     
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  8. declan32001

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    :confused: If you're talking about Yao's first four years I think just about everyone has other than T-Mac and Rafer has been reluctant to throw the pass in. Rafer is now and even at the angle I'm watching the games from I can't say I blame him.

    Cat's rookie year he was afraid not to throw it in to Dream or Barkley, but the interior defenses Luther's looking at now would scare the hell out of anyone, but last game he used that to his full advantage.

    Let's agree to disagree and pray JVG just says "I don't mind if anyone gets 4 turnovers trying to get the ball in to Yao" and see what happens.

    With all the turnovers tonight it couldn't be worse, but it could yield interesting results. Right now we need anything interesting.
     
  9. daoshi

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    This is uncalled for to call out a rookie, let the guy play a year or two before jump into any conclusion. The guy was no a PG in the college, probably won't be one in the NBA either. Maybe a combo guard like SF?

    On a more relevent note, does anyone think Head is a better player than the begining of the season, or regressed? I remember many here said a lot of good things about him him early in the season.
     
  10. pradaxpimp

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    Head has had some brilliant passes this year. Honestly, he has passes that are up to par with Rafer's flashes of brilliance. But it isn't consistent enough.

    O well, it's not like Kobe tore up the league his first year.
     
  11. gucci888

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    There are players who have been in the league for years and still aren't the best post passers. Head is a rookie who played on a guard oriented Illinois team w/ no dominant big man. If you think he doesn't WANT to pass to Yao then there is no way JVG would play him, short bench or not.

    Would you rather have Head rush the post pass and get it knocked away by Yao's guy (like we've seen so many times before)? Yao may have his guy sealed off, but defenders can quickly reach around and poke it away. Or would you rather him try to pass over the defender for them to tip and steal it (once again, we've seen it a bunch w/ Wesley and Alston).

    I just don't see the point of bashing a rookie when many thought (including myself) that he wasn't going to be that good anyways. Head has been the only brightspot of the season IMO, the other being the emergence of Yao.
     
  12. blazer_ben

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    You're bashing this guy because he was'nt passing it to you're idol?...there is more to the rockets then yao ming.
     
  13. ShadyMcGrady

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    Just wondering, but, what would you say if the pass gets stolen, Yao misses the shot due to the double/triple team, or Yao throws a terrible pass out because of the double/triple team?

    Although JVG might not be the BEST fit for this team, I do think it's NOT HIS fault our guards are clanging shots off the rim left and right. Or maybe it is? Maybe he has them on too tight a leash? It's tough to figure JVG out. I mean, he lets the guys take the shots right? Alston doesn't stop shooting because he's missing, neither does Bogans.

    I still want a 4 - 1 offense. Everyone on the perimiter except Yao. All we need is a 4 who can shoot the 3/long range jumpers and a back court that can shoot. The spacing would kill other teams.
     
  14. canoner2002

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    No. I was pissed off because he wasn't passing the ball to the only guy on the team who can score consistently, Yao or Tmac or anyone.
     
  15. canoner2002

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    i repeat, i am pissed off because head hesitate to pass the ball when it is quite clear to me yao was in scoring position. It is already hard for Yao to secure a good position with all the defense surronding him and he still proved he was the best option, then when he is in good position, jump on the oppertunities.
     
  16. kaleidosky

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    I'm glad 90% of the people disagree with this thread. Everyone doesn't jump on every easy bandwagon, at least!
     
  17. Cohen

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    Did you hear that he is a rookie?
     
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    So is Alston.
     
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    I was thinking the same thing. When I first saw the thread, I was bracing for the bandwagon tunneling through.... I'm glad people didn't jump on it.

    On that other hand, the Rockets are frustrating to watch. Just because they're losing a few games, you've got to look at everything in perspective. The injuries killed and we need to get some shooters this off season. No one was complaining about CD when he got those acquisitions. We'll just have to trust that he sees some errors and go after the players we need. He does seem to have a knack to get the players that he wants to get.

    As for inbounds passing, it's not as easy as it looks. Some of it could be attributed to rookie mistakes. If you're ready to throw in a pass and your dribble is already picked up, you want to make sure you don't make a mistake because JVG doesn't like them. Let's say the defender behind Yao makes a quick flinch or swipe, I would imagine Head being a rookie might hesitate some. Add that to the fact that it's the tail end of a long season in which Head has never played in so many competitive games before in a season. We're lucky that he's still shooting better than our veterans.

    Head is put in this game to shoot the ball. I'm almost certain that JVG put him in telling him to look for his shot because no one else is making them. You can't have it both ways. As a rookie under JVG, the consequences alone would push aside any thoughts to call him a ballhog. Can you imagine being a ballhog as a rookie under JVG that refuses to pass in to Yao?

    Finally, someone mentioned the thought of having 4 people spread out around the arc with Yao being the only man inside. I don't think that will work for the Rockets, and especially, Yao. I think oppositions would happily give up a three pointer by doubling off the worst shooter and making people take long jumpers. Long misses equals long rebounds, meaning Yao will have to sprint down the court more often than not. With the way the Rockets are shooting, that would kill Yao, or whichever center in the NBA. Just my 2 cents.
     
  20. Yetti

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    Yet it's very unfair to single out Head in this case as all of the Guards and Forwards are reluctant passers into Yao Ming. Tracy Mc G is the only one with the ability to do so and his passes were getting fewer and fewer, when he was available.
     

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