The following is a list of EVERY series where HCA/W-L Records and SRS/EFF disagreed on who to favor and who won out. 5/9 PRE-60'S ERA Code: 1947 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Philly vs St.Louis PHILLY 1950 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Lakers vs Nationals Lakers [B] 1951 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Nationals vs Knicks Knicks [/B] 1951 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Knicks vs Celtics Knicks Win 1952 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Lakers vs Royals Lakers [B] 1954 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Lakers vs Nationals Nationals[/B] [B] 1957 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Warriors vs Nationals Nationals[/B] [B] 1959 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Pistons vs Lakers Lakers[/B] 1959 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Nationals vs Knicks Nationals 5/6 The 60's Code: 1961 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Nationals vs Warriors Nationals 1966 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Hawks vs Bullets Hawks [B] 1968 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Lakers vs Celtics Celtics[/B] 1969 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Knicks vs Bullets Knicks 1969 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Celtics vs 76'ers Celtics 1969 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Celtics vs Lakers Celtics 8/16 The 70's Code: 1970 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Lakers vs Hawks Lakers [B] 1974 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Bulls vs Pistons Pistons[/B] 1976 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Bucks vs Pistons Bucks 1976 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Suns vs Sonics Suns [B] 1976 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Cavs vs Celtics Celtics[/B] [B] 1977 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Cavs vs Bullets Bullets[/B] 1977 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Blazers vs Nuggets Blazers [B] 1977 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Warriors vs Lakers Lakers[/B] 1977 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Blazers vs Lakers Blazers 1977 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Blazers vs 76'ers Blazers [B] 1978 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Lakers vs Sonics Sonics[/B] 1978 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Sonics vs Nuggets Sonics 1979 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Hawks vs Rockets Hawks 1979 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Lakers vs Sonics Lakers [B] 1979 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Suns vs Sonics Sonics[/B] [B] 1979 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Spurs vs Wizards Wizards[/B] 6/8 The 80's Code: 1981 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Bulls vs Knicks Bulls 1982 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Bullets vs Nets Bullets 1984 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Knicks vs Pistons Knicks 1985 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Blazers vs Mavs Blazers 1985 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Lakers vs Celtics Lakers 1988 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Mavs vs Nuggets Mavs [B] 1988 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Pistons vs Lakers Lakers[/B] [B] 1989 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Lakers vs Pistons Pistons[/B] 7/16 The 90's Code: 1990 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Suns vs Jazz Suns 1990 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Suns vs Lakers Suns [B] 1990 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT 76'ers vs Bulls Bulls[/B] [B] 1990 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Suns vs Blazers Blazers[/B] [B] 1993 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Cavs vs Bulls Bulls[/B] [B] 1993 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Sonics vs Suns Suns[/B] 1993 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Bulls vs Knicks Bulls [B] 1994 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Knicks vs Bulls Bulls[/B] [B] 1994 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Suns vs Rockets Rockets[/B] [B] 1994 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Knicks vs Rockets Rockets[/B] 1995 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Bulls vs Hornets Bulls 1997 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Jazz vs Spurs Jazz [B] 1998 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Hornets vs Hawks Hawks[/B] [B] 1998 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Lakers vs Jazz Jazz[/B] [B] 1999 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Pistons vs Hawks Hawks[/B] 1999 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Blazers vs Jazz Blazers 10/16 The 2000's Code: 2001 [B](SRS) (W-L) RESULT Blazers vs Lakers Lakers[/B] [B] 2001 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Kings vs Lakers Lakers[/B] [B] 2002 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Magic vs Hornets Hornets[/B] 2002 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Celtics vs Pistons Celtics 2003 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Lakers vs Twolves Lakers 2003 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Nets vs Pistons Nets 2004 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Pistons vs Pacers Pistons 2004 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Pistons vs Lakers Pistons 2005 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Pacers vs Celtics Pacers 2005 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Spurs vs Suns Spurs 2007 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Spurs vs Suns Spurs [B] 2007 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Bulls vs Pistons Pistons[/B] 2008 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Jazz vs Rockets Jazz [B] 2008 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Suns vs Spurs Spurs[/B] 2010 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Spurs vs Mavs Spurs [B] 2010 (SRS) (W-L) RESULT Spurs vs Suns Suns[/B] 17/28 Teams with Identical Records 1954 Celtics vs Nationals = SRS Prevails 1955 Nationals vs Pistons = SRS Fails 1956 Lakers vs Hawks = SRS Fails 1957 Lakers vs Pistons = SRS Prevails 1957 Lakers vs Hawks = SRS Prevails 1958 Royals vs Pistons = SRS Fails 1975 Celtics vs Bullets = SRS Prevails 1976 Braves vs 76'ers = SRS Prevails 1977 Spurs vs Celtics = SRS Fails 1978 Cavs vs Knicks = SRS Fails 1979 Lakers vs Nuggets = SRS Prevails 1980 Rockets vs Spurs = SRS Prevails 1981 Kings vs Rockets = SRS Prevails 1981 Celtics vs 76'ers = SRS Fails 1982 Suns vs Nuggets = SRS Prevails 1990 Blazers vs Pistons = SRS Fails 1993 Rockets vs Sonics = SRS Prevails 1996 Knicks vs Cavs = SRS Fails 1998 Spurs vs Suns = SRS Fails 1998 Lakers vs Sonics = SRS Prevails 1998 Jazz vs Bulls = SRS Prevails 1999 Lakers vs Rockets = SRS Prevails 2000 76'ers vs Hornets = SRS Fails 2001 Mavs vs Jazz = SRS Fails 2002 Lakers vs Spurs = SRS Prevails 2003 Spurs vs Mavs = SRS Fails 2008 Spurs vs Hornets = SRS Fails 2010 Jazz vs Nuggets = SRS Prevails Summary Out of 99 Playoff Series the team with the higher SRS won 58 times, considering HCA is suppose to be a heavy advantage this is a drastic figure. I need some help contextualizing those scores by recognizing player availability and any other factors you guys feel will skew the results in one way or another. For example Ive excluded the Spurs vs Suns series of 2000 because Duncan was unavailable, to prevent bias this was the only series I excluded. If anyone recalls anything pertaining to injuries and the like from the playoff series listed please share. So what say you, if you were going to Vegas what system would you trust?
SRS = simple rating system http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=39 Oh, and HCA = Home Court Advantage I think?
What does that mean -- "drastic figure". Drastically low, or drastically high? What sort of figure were you expecting, and why?
Sorry for the lack of explanation but SRS is Simple Rating System, its an alternative method of gauging a teams level of play as opposed to Win-Loss records. SRS is basically comprised of your team efficiency differential with some with a component to account for Strength of Schedule I believe. This list is basically the # of times the 2 systems disagreed on who to favor. Meaning one team had more wins and losses, while the other team had higher efficiency scores. You always hear about how strong of an effect HCA has yet the team WITHOUT it won most of the time. Its what I was expecting, the purpose of this thread was to weed out the idea that the team with the superior Win-Loss record has proven more to that point. I dont know if its a longheld belief here but Ive seen the argument on numerous boards.
