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[HBO] The Last of Us Season 2

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by GRENDEL, Sep 26, 2024.

  1. DonnyMost

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    I think I may have misread some of your older comments.

    Salvy is dead-ass just upset because 'teh gays' are in his media.

    You just seem to have extremely poor taste, which is not a sin. :D

    FWIW: Ep 3 is the most memorable piece of the entire show for me, and without it, I dare say that people would have been just better off watching a "let's play" of the video game on YouTube.
     
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    This is a fair statement. Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean they are bigoted, even if you think they have poor taste. Some other posters can learn from you. Kudos.
     
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    I'm hopeful for Season 2.

    Part 2 of the game was overly ambitious in terms of story-telling, but I feel like that source material fits into film a lot better than Part 1 did.

    There's a LOT going on in Part 2 and there's a litany of underdeveloped characters to dig into.

    That being said...

    I'm guessing that the woke-spotting mafia will have another field day with it.

    Yes, the trans character's inclusion does feel a bit forced and out of place, but JFC, Abby can be ripped and like buttsecks without causing a culture war.

    P.S. is that the Rat King at 30 seconds in??
     
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    Spoilers of course, but I want to inoculate people against the type of lazy, dumbass takes posted above.

     
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    No, there's no misreading it. @clos4life is a bigot who can handle gay people in a TV show.
     
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    Let's pray for a good harvest on Season 2.
     
  8. DonnyMost

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    He never actually said, or even hinted, he had a problem with the sexuality of the characters, unlike Salvy.
     
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    Lies.
     
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    No, there's is no misreading it. @IBTL is a bigot who can't handle people not liking his favorite episodes because they are boring and irrelevant to the main story.
     
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    Thank you, someone actually read the posts unlike @IBTL .
     
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    I'm actually looking forward to season 2, curious to the TV portrayal of certain events that will involve Joel, Ellie, and the new characters. First season did a good overall job adapting the video game.
     
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    The search function exists. Post the receipts.
     
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    I never had a problem with the gay dudes being gay, I had a problem with it being a main focus for no reason other than to announce they were woke.... I felt they were poorly written and only there to be a checkmark that added nothing to the story other than them patting themselves on their back and convincing each other they are good human beings...... I didn't finish season 1, I might try it again but if they continue to push agendas over everything I'm gonna stop again.
     
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    1) You're not acquitting yourself at all. The mere existence of gay people in a story is not a political message. Gay people exist. They find romance and kill zombies just like the rest of us. We all saw a touching love story while you saw an overtly political message and something which offended your sensibilities. You getting your pants in a bunch over that says a lot more about you than it does about the people telling the story.

    2) I highly encourage you to sit out the rest of the show, both for your and our sakes alike.
     
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    That's the thing, these games are about a zombie apocalypse... It's not a romance, can there be romance in it? Sure but they dedicated an entire episode to two gay dudes falling in love... Like, WTF..... I hope you didn't run out of Kleenex when the gay dudes died... Currently watching Squid Games 2, watched Euphoria and Empire.... All of those shows are woke to a certain degree, Euphoria more than others but I still felt like the real life issues in the show justified the characters and the universe.... Sorry your fav show is getting criticized for something out of place and ridiculous....
     
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    Damn you for making me click "Show ignored content" - a certain poster in this thread would benefit from taking a basic literature or screenwriting class.
     
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    I agree that Lev being transgender was a bit of a shoehorned plot element, but it didn't detract from the overall story of a person trying to escape from a rigid, dogmatic cult. Their story could've been told in an interesting way if they'd been a regular female trying to escape from an arranged child marriage. But, the added element of wanting to embrace the masculine ideals of the cult instead of just avoiding marriage enriched the story. If given space to breathe and exist, Lev's innate gifts (tenacity, precision, courage) would've bettered his society. But, that society couldn't see past how it felt compelled to define him.

    In fact, as I think about it more, it makes sense that Lev would've seen his gender as a total binary. He didn't live in a society that tolerated tomboys; it was either marry against your will and produce offspring or be a warrior on behalf of the faith. If he didn't want one, he only understood the other. Our own feelings regarding transgenderism are projected onto the character because we come from a more prismatic understanding of gender expression.

    One of the series' main themes is destiny and breaking out of pre-determined paths. Joel broke out of his self-imposed destiny of solitude and emotional distance by embracing Ellie; she felt that he robbed her of her destiny to save mankind; Abby put any sense of her own future on hold in her single-minded pursuit of Joel, but helped Lev find his by breaking away from the Seraphites.

    People who want a shoot 'em up, run for the hills zombie story should just watch Dawn of the Dead on repeat instead of The Last of Us. But they better turn off the old noggin' and ignore the themes present in that, too.
     
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    It's not even about what is good storytelling.

    It's about the fact that gay people are allowed to exist and have the same experiences as the rest of us that we can empathize with and be entertained by.

    If that episode were the Rock and Meghan Fox beat-for-beat we'd not hear a peep out of these goobers.
     
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    Need MORE of this but SWEATIER.

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