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Easily. I think Manny is a great fighter who would get his ass kicked if he fights Floyd Mayweather. That's my stance on it. it's not your place to tell me how I can critique fights. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

 

It's not taking anything from Manny. I think it will be a one sided fight, perhaps not a complete destruction like Gatti but it won't be that tough a fight for Floyd. It is the style that makes it extremely difficult for him. Manny doesn't deal well with counter punchers (Marquez) plus his last 4 fights (the fights every Pactard jizzes over) were against fighters with styles catered to Manny.

Oscar - completely drained and was basically standing there taking Manny's punches. Manny's skills and fighting ability had nothing to do with this win.

Hatton - fights with his hands around his waist and comes straight forward with minimal head movement.

Cotto - hunches over and times and doesn't keep his hands close to his face. He keeps them up kinda high with his elbows out and that leaves him open to get hit a lot. also doesn't move his head a lot.

Clottey - well he is basically a punching bag with legs. all defense but no head movement either.

Floyd is none of those. The movement will throw Manny's rhythm off which will make him hesitate to throw punches. He will come forward and lean in with his straight left and get his head snapped back with a right hand counter from Floyd...allllll night. Jabs to the body and straight rights all night. Floyd will have a field day.

 

Do you post on any boxing websites? If you don't, you should come over to maxboxing. It's a real good group of people whjo know boxing. You would fit in real well

 

lol, nothing to do with that win? nothing at all? then explain why everyone said Oscar would dominate Manny, even after knowing that Oscar is past his prime and weight drained. People still picked Oscar to demolish Manny. Manny wins and it had nothing to do with his skills. Sure. If I'm not mistaking, you picked Manny to lose to 3 of those 4 guys you listed. But I guess it was the steroids, even though those guys are tailor made for Manny like you said. Pactards may be bad, but flomos are just as worst.

Pac may have never fought anyone like Floyd but Floyd has hasn't fought anyone like Manny either. Yes, Marquez and Floyd are both counter punchers but Marquez throws punches in combination as opposed to Floyd's one or two punches max at a time. That makes a big difference.

Floyd does have the edge in the fight but I don't think its going to be an easy win like you guys are saying. Floyd is not an unbeatable god. Jose Luis Castillo and Oscar De La Hoya proved that. Many people felt JLC won that 1st mach and many people, including Floyd Sr., said Oscar won that match. And from the last fight, we saw that Floyd can be hurt.

With Manny, he would have to deal with speed and power. He has some of the best footwork in the game to go along with ridiculously fast hand combinations. I'll go as far as to say he has the fastest hands in boxing. Add power to both hands to all that and you got yourself a damn good fight against Money May.

Best bet for Floyd is to play it safe and fight all defense like he usually does. If hes gonna come forward and try to bring the fight like he did against Mosley, he could be going to bed early that night. Manny won't working unlike most fighters that Floyd fought. He'll get knocked out trying to knock Floyd out. Somebody is hitting the canvas. Can't wait! :grin:

 

Many people (including myself) believe Marquez won both fights against Manny. Manny has been knocked down and out. He has been outboxed. So what? I never said NO ONE can beat Floyd. All I said was Pacquiao can't

People were picking Oscar to win because they figured he would come in with some kind of physical advantage. All that went out the window when he decided to come back down to 147. He was dead before the first bell rang. Manny didn't have to use any skill, he just had to throw punches. He didn't have to outsmart Oscar or really do anything to win as far as skill goes. He landed a lot of punches fairly easy without much resistance. Put anyone at 147 in with that Oscar and you get the same outcome.

I picked him to lose against Hatton, I made the mistake of thinking that Hatton would come into the fight thinking he should protect himself at all times. Instead of walking directly into Manny's left hand. I also picked Manny to lose against Cotto. Didn't pick him to win against Oscar and definitely not Clottey.

 

Only place I've posted is boxingscene. Been there for a few years. I'll check out maxboxing though.

 

Anybody have a video of this? Having some trouble finding one and I missed the fight.

 

Sad thing about the Cotto fight is Cotto was landing jabs easily. If he stayed away from trying to flurry with Pacquaio he would have won the fight easy. I see Floyd landing a lot of jabs when Manny try to flurry Floyd move his head and countering with a lot of power punches. Manny power punches are wild leaves too many chances for adjustments. The misconception about Floyd is he's a defensive fight but actually he's a counter puncher using a philly boxing style. He makes you make mistakes and you pay for it. Mosley was able to get him out of that philly style in the 2nd round and he went to a straight defensive style. Floyd has a strong neck also so he's not easy to knock out.

 

Cool. i'm in Vegas next week and then in New York for Danny's fight but I'm going to try and drop in when I can. Tell Mark (PWillisGod), Ken (DetroitMex), or E (Eaner some number, he works for Everlast) you are Keith's boy and they will defnitely hook it up.

 

I'm going to NYC for Paulie's fight.

 

so do we start a new thread about that fight, or do we just talk about it here???

Really looking forward to seeing Khan fight.

 

Depends, we could make this a permanent thread for the HBO fights that aren't so big and on PPV. Khan is very fast and talented but has had issues with his chin in the past. One of the greatest amateur boxers ever though.

 

also..implicit in my, "i wanna see Khan fight" is my desire to see Paulie get KO'd while sticking his tongue out.

 

Dude, if you keep picking AGAINST Pacman, maybe you'll get it right sooner or later.

 

Haven't been impressed with Paul Williams for a while now... I thought Sergio Martinez kicked his ass and got robbed of a decision.

 

His weak chin won't be an issue in this fight, considering he is facing the most featherfisted boxer around. It's been like 7 or 8 years since Paulie had KO win. He could punch a newborn baby and not knock him out.

 

That was the best fight of last year.

 

I really wanted to see Diaz send him to the mat. Seems like there were a couple of times where Diaz connected well enough to get Paulie to wobble a bit....oh, well.