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Haynesworth on the block? Wouldn't he look nice lined up next to Mario?

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  1. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost Member
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    If Washington is trying to get rid of him, there's probably a reason...
     
    #21 DonnyMost, Apr 8, 2010
  2. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    yeah, They figured out he doesn't work in a 3-4
     
    #22 REEKO_HTOWN, Apr 8, 2010
  3. DonnyMost

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    Which means he would work in a 4-3, how?
     
    #23 DonnyMost, Apr 8, 2010
  4. ROXRAN

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    As long as we don't have to overpay, I'd be interested...
     
    #24 ROXRAN, Apr 8, 2010
  5. Bojangles

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    I don't know. Washington is among the poorest run franchises in the NFL. They never know what the hell they're doing, lol.
     
    #25 Bojangles, Apr 8, 2010
  6. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Because the Titans ran the 4-3?

    I thought you would know this.
     
    #26 REEKO_HTOWN, Apr 8, 2010
  7. rhino17

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    Because he earned that contract being possibly best defensive lineman in the NFL in a 4-3
     
    #27 rhino17, Apr 8, 2010
  8. Bojangles

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    Did you know he played in a 4-3 defense with Tennessee? LOLOLOLOLOLOL
     
    #28 Bojangles, Apr 8, 2010
  9. Phillyrocket

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    I would do it, we're really just a piece or two away from making a serious run. I wish we could somehow move up to get Berry and then trade for Hayneworth we would be set.

    With the Wade Smith signing, Briesel, Studdard, Caldwell, I don't think the interior line is that bad. I would sign a veteran back and go after a few UFAs to compete.

    Reeves, Quin, and McCain are serviceable with Berry. Haynesworth allows the pass rush to really take off and help with coverage.
     
    #29 Phillyrocket, Apr 8, 2010
  10. DonnyMost

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    lol :)

    Yeah I know, but I'm not convinced he would instantly turn into Badass McBeatdown again simply going from 3-4 to 4-3.

    I mean really, how much is an acceptable/expected drop-off going from 4-3 to 3-4 as a DT?

    If he comes cheap, sure. But I doubt he will. Hard to take on that monster salary with a track record that reads "mediocrity.... good year, great year, mostly suck".
     
    #30 DonnyMost, Apr 8, 2010
  11. rezdawg

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    It takes more size to play DT in a 3-4 defense because its only 1 player manning the middle of the line...You also wont see much of a pass rush from a nose tackle in the 3-4 because their main purpose is to hold their position against the run...they dont have much of an impact against the pass.

    If you have a DT that has relative quickness, then they would be much more successful in a 4-3 defense.

    Pair Haynesworth with Mario and youve got a DLine that will cause all sorts of problems for an offense.
     
    #31 rezdawg, Apr 8, 2010
  12. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Talk about a line that strikes fear! I'm jizzing my pants just thinking about it.

    [​IMG]
     
    #32 REEKO_HTOWN, Apr 8, 2010
  13. eric.81

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    I appreciate the fact that those who responded read my post, but it seems like all the "against" votes didn't read the John Clayton article I linked.

    Per Clayton (who, I know, works for the evil empire and is reliable as a weatherman just like all of the so-called "sages" of sports media):

    1. Haynesworth signed w/ Washington, in part, because he believes he's most effective in a 4-3 and thought they were committed long-term to the 4-3.

    2. Megabucks head coach/puppet master is absolutely insisting on a 3-4 defense. This doesn't sit well with Big Al, which is why he's working out on his own this offseason. The article intimates that Gary Kubiak's uncle Shannahan IS the Redskins' puppet master and is quite stubborn when he thinks this is right. (Which is obvious to any football fan and I know he's not really GK's uncle)

    3. Although they are saying he's not on the block, he WAS offered to the Eagles for McNabb, but the Eagles are trying to get younger and preferred picks.

    4. Although he only played 12 games, both ends on the DLine notched 11 sacks each, in no small part due to the blockers Al regularly tied up. Despite the Skins only winning 4 games, their defense was ranked 10th in the league.

    5. Mr. Garrison, I mean John Clayton seems to think that Al could be had for the Lion's or Buc's 2nd round pick (#34 & #35 overall, respectively).

    I'm not saying it will happen, could happen, might happen... I personally think it's very unlikely due to the Texans predisposition for avoiding big-ticket items they didn't draft/develop (A. Smith and D. Orlovsky not withstanding) and putting a high premium on "character."

    I really just want to know whether my fellow football fans think the high price would be worth it, if his attitude would be too great a risk, and dreamcast about a former tormentor switching sides to team up with a "high potential" guy (amobi), solid pro (smith), and freakishly-talented-only-scratching-the-surface-maybe-best-in-the-league-type (obvious).
     
    #33 eric.81, Apr 8, 2010
  14. DonnyMost

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    Well, I'd buy that, except Washington brought him there to eat quarterbacks for dinner and runningbacks for dessert, no?

    I don't think they were lacking on the blitz factor there... maybe Washington's pass rush was so bad he couldn't help but get doubled?

    He had a few injuries last year too, right? It was just an all around bad year for him. So if that knocks his price down enough...
     
    #34 DonnyMost, Apr 8, 2010
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    ^^ Nice post! Good perspective. Makes it look a lot more feasible.

    I always thought he looked more like...

    [​IMG]

    Mmmkay.
     
    #35 DonnyMost, Apr 8, 2010
  16. eric.81

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    *Banging head against the table* Bad pass rush? Read the thread... 22 sacks from their ends, and an overall defensive ranking of 10th in the NFL. They won 4 games because of their completely, utterly inept offense. NOT because of their defense.
     
    #36 eric.81, Apr 8, 2010
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    Jeez... I got my Southpark characters mixed up. Obviously that is who I meant. MR. MACKEY!!
     
    #37 eric.81, Apr 8, 2010
  18. DonnyMost

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    Fair enough, if you want to prescribe that success to him, ok. I wonder what things were like before Big Al, though?
     
    #38 DonnyMost, Apr 8, 2010
  19. rhino17

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    It comes down to, would you rather have a 2nd round pick in this draft to come in and help next season or Albert Haynesworth


    that question is easy for me personally
     
    #39 rhino17, Apr 8, 2010
  20. DonnyMost

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    I think the biggest factor we're all missing here is that this would be a giant F.U. to the Titans and Bud Adams.
     
    #40 DonnyMost, Apr 8, 2010
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