1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[Haynes] Lakers Plan to start LeBron at Point Guard

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by ghettocheeze, Jul 8, 2019.

  1. JLOBABYDADDY

    JLOBABYDADDY Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2003
    Messages:
    1,718
    Likes Received:
    195
    But can they play all 48 minutes?
     
    BallSoHarden likes this.
  2. JLOBABYDADDY

    JLOBABYDADDY Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2003
    Messages:
    1,718
    Likes Received:
    195
    Your scenario assumes that the entire game will be played on one end of the court. Now flip all those matchups around, now AD and Kuzma are guarding Harden and Gordon. On the perimeter. Easy dunk from cousins or post up from AD is worth 2 points. Step back 3 is worth 3 points. Do the math.
     
  3. ParaSolid

    ParaSolid Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2007
    Messages:
    4,549
    Likes Received:
    1,657
    Bradley is going to need to start because point guards will eviscerate LeBron if he tries to defend them.
     
  4. JumpMan

    JumpMan Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2004
    Messages:
    5,683
    Likes Received:
    2,108
    1. Positions are determined by defensive assignments.

    2. It would be real news if LeBron moved to power forward.
     
    BallSoHarden likes this.
  5. BeardNation13

    BeardNation13 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2019
    Messages:
    932
    Likes Received:
    2,040
    Yeah let him run point for 80 games a season at 35 years

    Watch him wear out come playoff time. perfect for the Rockets
     
    smoothie likes this.
  6. Pistol Pete

    Pistol Pete Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2002
    Messages:
    3,094
    Likes Received:
    826
    Yeah this late in his career, this level of wear and tear will be an injury waiting to happen,
     
    BamBam likes this.
  7. thedude077

    thedude077 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2012
    Messages:
    3,240
    Likes Received:
    784
    Stop following news from Yahoo Sports and Bleacher Report, please? We're better than this...
     
  8. ghettocheeze

    ghettocheeze Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2006
    Messages:
    7,320
    Likes Received:
    9,071
    What are you even talking about? Lakers will never put AD on Harden.

    It will either be LeBron or Kuzma and Harden tends to struggle against tall athletic wings. Meanwhile, Davis will be in the paint waiting to block Harden's layups and floaters like Gobert did in the Utah series.

    Lakers are not a good matchup for Harden and Gordon for the same reason Iggy, Thompson, and Durant were good at defending our guards.

    LOL. Not with any remotely as talented as LeBron and Davis.
     
    PlayBall likes this.
  9. JumpMan

    JumpMan Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2004
    Messages:
    5,683
    Likes Received:
    2,108
    Igoudala, Thompson, and Durant are all plus defenders while LeBron rests on defense, Green is average, and Kuzma hasn't proven himself at that end.
     
  10. smoothie

    smoothie Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2001
    Messages:
    19,988
    Likes Received:
    5,060
    seems pretty gimmicky. offensively he's always been a PG, but he's also always had a quicker traditional PG to guard opposing guards.
     
    Corrosion and Relativist like this.
  11. PlayBall

    PlayBall Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2019
    Messages:
    621
    Likes Received:
    401
    Green is well above average defensively.

    And you’re only half right about Lebron resting on defense. He does that plenty...in the regular season. He can still turn it on in the playoffs, just can’t do it for 82 games at this point. I assume it’s not regular season matchups you’re concerned about.
     
  12. javal_lon

    javal_lon Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2010
    Messages:
    7,108
    Likes Received:
    3,405
    LeBron will lead the league in offensive fouls... Theses point guards know how to move their feet and most importantly flop..... Silver gonna change the rules on flopping quick..lol
     
  13. JumpMan

    JumpMan Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2004
    Messages:
    5,683
    Likes Received:
    2,108
    The last time I remember him playing good defense was in the 2016 Finals. It isn't even about will anymore. He just can't even if he wanted to.

    Even if I granted you that point, that he is still capable, I still don't see how he, Kuzma, and Green are anywhere near the defenders that Durant, Thompson, and Igoudala were.
     
  14. jowman

    jowman Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2019
    Messages:
    943
    Likes Received:
    1,271
    If not the rockets I wanna see lakers beat clippers. Can’t stand the hypocrisy surrounding the nba new golden child Kawhi Leonard. Dude is the luckiest of all time and a pippen type player AT BEST.

    He’s scum.
     
    BigShasta likes this.
  15. PlayBall

    PlayBall Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2019
    Messages:
    621
    Likes Received:
    401
    I never said they were.
     
  16. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2005
    Messages:
    20,630
    Likes Received:
    10,970
    Hmmm lookup head to head matchup record between lebron and harden

    Just last year alone he avged 41 pts vs the lakers
     
  17. JMAD21

    JMAD21 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2010
    Messages:
    4,212
    Likes Received:
    752
    "PGs" that played with LeBron before Kyrie:

    Eric Snow
    Boobie Gibson
    Mo Williams
    Mario Chalmers
    Noris Cole
    Carlos Arroyo
    Old ass Mike Bibby

    LeBron has been the de facto Point Guard his entire career. Even with Kyrie, LeBron was often the primary ball handler. They'll still need to start someone to matchup with most PGs and the lineup won't look all that unconventional. The NBA has gone pretty much position-less. They're only used for defensive match-ups (you're only a 3 if you guard a 3, 2 if you guard 2's etc.)

    They're starters, IMO, will be:
    Bradley
    Green
    LeBron
    Kuzma
    AD
     
  18. BallSoHarden

    BallSoHarden Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2015
    Messages:
    1,411
    Likes Received:
    1,658
    As a fan of Lebron, I just dont think its possible. He can't be great on both ends at this age. Jordan won his last championship at 33, Kobe at 31, and Lebron will be 35 this coming season having skipped college and has been putting on NBA miles for 17 years. He will score buckets, but him being a tall PG wont matter. He has not spent as much time this summer in a cryogenic chamber. He has been filming Space Jam 2. At this stage i think he is after the longevity related major statistical records. I think AD will realize he had some solid pieces around him in New Orleans, as well as decent coaches. Just seems like a random mishmosh of players and Frank Vogel. Under 51.5 wins for Lakers this year.
     
    JumpMan likes this.
  19. xaos

    xaos Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2015
    Messages:
    2,585
    Likes Received:
    6,393
    I can respect all of those points. Good post.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now