FACT: He was pretty clutch in last years playoffs, actually. 25.3 points and 7.3 assists clutch. Unfortunately, the rest of the team had problems: covering Boozer, guarding Okur at the 3 point line, stopping Deron Williams, driving to a hoop covered by AK47, Boozer and Okur, Luther couldn't hit a 3 pointer, Gricek decided to play out of his mind, Sloan made better adjustments defending him when no one else could step up. Yeah, blame that one on TMac. Also, please go watch last Wed's Seattle game to see what TMac means to this team BTW, I agree with your previous comment about 20MM good. The rest I think is rubbish
He makes us a much better team in the clutch mainly because he is our only ballhandler that can do either create a shot for himself or make a post entry pass against a hounding crunch time defense. But overall, we lose a lot of our overall offensive rhthym when he is on the floor. I can't believe that we run better with Yao then we do with Tmac. Who would have guessed that when we signed RA
What's the point of this thread? Shall we lose faith in Tmac simply because Yao had a big game last night? We need both Yao and Tmac to be at their best in order to go deep into the playoff. It's just as simple as that. This kind of threads serve no purpose other than creating more tension between the 'only-fans' of the players.
I think that was mainly because MJ made 50% of them. Yes, we also need to look at the 3 years they played together. Did we win a single playoff series? I don't think any rookie needing that much time to develop and only showing potential. How do you know that it is far less than last year? one shot less?
According to the TOF, T-Mac should have won the game against the Jazz for the Rockets since he is clutch.
What does this post have to do w/ mine? Nowhere am I even implying that we would be better w/out Tmac, that we would've lost against GS because of Tmac, or that we should have beaten Utah w/ out Yao. I used all these examples to clearly illustrate one thing: that Tmac does not need to take it upon himself to get the team going and I don't think he understands that fully yet. The team will get the team going, as shown in the Golden State game.
YeAh Mayne, ThAt PuNk shOUdl'VE wON 9 RiNgZ aLl By HIMSelF bY noW HE aint addin nuthin to the roxorz.
In the four games with yao, t-mac has average 13.5 attempts per game - I think that's far less than the 21 from last year he averaged. It shows that he is in fact buying into the offense and trying to play team ball. And his play reflects it to.
Obviously we are better with a healthy Tmac than we are just sitting him or getting rid of him for the sake of getting rid of him. That doesn't necessarily mean we wouldn't be better off after trading him though, given his injury problems and bottom line lack of results in the playoffs. It would all depend on what we got back in the trade. Without discussing who we would be trading him for it is impossible to evaluate if trading him is a good idea or not.
To show that the trade t-mac club and the claims that fans don't have faith in him anymore is a small minority and doesn't represent Rockets Nation
like more said, we have the same people who clamor to trade yao last yr when we went 20-12 without him. we have gone only 8-7 without tmac and tmac trades are ON FIRE? come back to me when they can win 60% of their games without tmac and u have a legit chance. the team still blew a 20-PT LEAD and it took a SPECTACULAR/season highs from yao to BARELY win. yes, let's trade tmac. if yao was not on fire last night, we choke again. yao saved us.
Obviously people who want to trade Tmac expect to be getting something back. Of course we are not going to win 60% of our games with $20 million in salary cap on the bench. We might win 60% with who ever we got back in a Tmac trade though. Until we start discussing specific trade senarios it is impossible to even guess.
in those 4 games he was playing off the bench and his minutes were below his normal minutes. so your support doesn't fit the conclusion you drew there. only thing i'm not sure of is that if you're doing that on purpose.
again, i'm not opposed to trade tmac, but be realistic. he's injury-prone; he's been highly criticized this year by his own fans and media; GMs have perceived him as unhappy in this locker room. now seriously, who do u expect to get back that could help the team to go to another level? teams are not going to give us young players and draft picks. teams are not going to give us an all-star (not even ONE). kobe himself coudln't even get luol deng. teams are not going to give up their core players for tmac. the only teams that will trade for tmac is if they think they're on the EDGE of championship and would be willing to risk it just for winning. but there are no teams like that EXCEPT US (coincidence?). the clips MIGHT trade maggette for us, but nothing more. maybe an expiring contract. boston is another team that will be willing b/c ray allen has been not the shooter they have wanted. and if u team tmac + kg + pierce, danny ainge (the talent only guy like morey) would pull the trigger. the wiz ARE NOT going to trade butler. so we have 2 legit options. i don't tink morey would want maggette b/c he's just as injury-prone. and ray allen can't create down the stretch. and ray can't play PG.
nice try but no cigar. T-mac coming off the bench those games has averaged 32 minutes, only 2 minutes below his season average. So you are saying a 5% reduction in minutes accounts for a 33% drop in shot attempts???? And his shot attempts for the year is still 2 below last year. So he's adjusting to Adelman's offense, and the numbers demonstrate that. People saying he's not adjusting are propagating a lie.
There isn't much logic here. By trading T-Mac, it is guarantee of above 60% wins because your will always get return. By simply taking out 20million salary, it will be difficult to get 50%.
