I think all oxygen breathers, water drinkers, food eaters, and BBS posters have a mortality rate of exactly 100%.
Being older than most of y'all has it's advantages and disadvantages. I'm old enough to know better about embarassing myself by spilling my guts about past indiscretions (dtown, I will answer your email eventually), but also old enough to not be up with all of today's culture. That being said, what the hell is "special k"?
I smoked pot five times my senior year of college, because I thought I should try it while I could. The first time was just an absolute blast, so I bought a $20 bag with the intention of smoking it often. Wasn't like school was going to get in the way. But, the second, third, and fourth times were progressively less fun, and the fifth and final time came after Ohio State lost to Michigan 13-9, ruining their undefeated season. Pot doesn't work well for drowning your sorrows. It wasn't very good. After I sobered up, I realized I just plain didn't like it-- when I got stoned, I would just sit and stare at things for hours. I remember having a full pilsner glass of beer, staring at it, thinking, "That looks really good," but not drinking it-- I sat there until it went warm and flat. So I sold the rest of the bag to a girl for $10-- making me a drug dealer, sort of. I never tried LSD because of control issues, and I never tried cocaine because that **** can ****ing kill you the first time you try it. No thanks. Never got offered anything else besides those three drugs.
I thought everyone had a 100% mortality rate. Nomar, this statement is absolute garbage. Saying people who smoke weed have a 100% mortality rate is like saying people who breathe air have a 100% mortality rate. Just because you say something doesn't make it fact. The way you have presented yourself in this thread shows you still have a lot of maturing to do because you can't even debate the topic without resorting to insults. How about discussing it intelligently and providing corroborating evidence to back up your "facts"? I will agree that drug dealing in itself can lead to murder and smoking any substance can increase your likelihood of developing cancer or something that can lead to death versus a person who doesn't smoke anything. But, that is not a 100% mortality by any stretch of your imagination. And, whether you like NYKRule's stance or not, his point about drugs affecting people in different ways has merit. Case in point...take two different people who smoke a bowl of weed and drive a car after doing so. First person may smoke weed in moderation or quite often. Second person may smoke weed not so often. The first person will have a much higher tolerance level than the second person. So, when he smokes some weed and drives a car...he will not be nearly as high as the second person. The first person may be sporting a little buzz equivalent to a person who has drank a few beers. Since first person has developed an immunity(or higher tolerance) to the effect of weed, his ability to drive a car will pretty much still be intact. Now, take second person who smokes some weed with a very low tolerance to weed because he doesn't smoke so often. This person will be equivalent to someone who has drank several beers and is completely drunk. This person's ability to drive a car is severely impacted and he will not be in a position to drive a car anywhere close to how he could if he were straight. In conclusion, varying usage and tolerance levels have a significant impact on whether said user's impaired abilities to operate a vehicle are slight or severe. There are, however, varying factors which can change the impact of the weed on the said users above. The examples assume the first person generally smokes the same grade of weed across time. If first person upgrades the quality of weed he smokes when smoking another lower quality of weed the previous times, then he becomes more impacted because he is smoking a higher quality weed with a higher level of THC in it. Thus, his ability to drive a car will become significantly impacted like the second user. This is not to say anyone under the influence of anything should drive a car. This is just to illustrate an example which proves the validity of NYKRule's point. Disclaimer: This doesn't mean I condone smoking anything, doing drugs, or doing anything to impact a person's abilities and/or abilities to operate machinery or a vehicle. Surf
Hey Brian, Are you from Ohio originally or did you go to Ohio State?? I know that you live (or did at one time) in Austin. I guess I assumed that you have always lived in Texas. Just curious because I guess you are a Buckeye fan.
While I didn't really get the point of Nomar's post, it did make me smile a bit. He was just paraphrasing the quote "99% of putts that are short of the hole don't go in". How could you guys think he was serious? I don't use drugs because I don't like having my reality messed with. I understand that for a lot of people in the world, their reality sucks (or at least they think it does at the time), so I can't condemn them for using drugs. As a private citizen, you should have the right to F yourself up if that's what you want. However, if you are thinking about using drugs, realize that using drugs can put you into one of three different categories: Non-addictive personality: you can take it or leave it and it doesn't affect your life too much. You get addicted to that particular drug and it messes up your life, but you get over it someday. You will always have the scars though, and your life is never the same. You get addicted or killed by that particular drug and you don't recover. Some people die, some end up on the streets, some end up in jail. You aren't going to hear their viewpoints on this board, but they exist - don't forget about them. [/list=1]
Me dun drugs. I'm 32. I grew up in a time when people were still out for a wild time and a little adventure. I smoked pot for 15 years, starting in the mid to late 80's. I've done acid many times in my late teens / early twenties, having some great times (you really must be out camping and such to really enjoy it). I've also done my favorite drug, mushrooms, plenty of times. I go pick them myself, its part of the fun. I went camping once only to realize my whole camp site was surrounded with mushrooms. That was one of the most memorable nights of my life. We were in the middle of nowhere with billions of stars that seemed only a few feet overhead . I saw countless meteorites coming in. Ever see The Simpsons where Homer eats that pepper and goes off on his trip? It was a lot like that. Beautiful experience. I did some X and coke in high school in the late eighties, it was ok but it was too expensive to do a lot of. Never done heroin, crystal or crack. Now I don't smoke pot anymore, it just got old. Now I just go out on the weekends and stick to Guinness and Marlboro Ultra Lights. But I don't smoke or drink during the week. But since Rocket season is starting and we should have a good team, that might change a little.
Manny-- I was born in Columbus, OH, (at the Ohio State University Hospital, no less) and my family moved to Texas when I was 11. My parents are both OSU alumni, so I was raised living and dying with the Buckeyes. It wasn't until I set foot on the UT campus that I fell in love with UT. I still root for OSU, but my primary rooting interest is my alma mater.
lol Are you one of the young alumn who got cited for peeing in the hedges one yr when the tent was along Rice Blvd and the lines for the pissers were too long. I cannot believe the campos did that.
dude, thank you so much for asking that. i'm glad to know i wasn't the only one. i was beginning to think everyone was overdosing on cereal in here!
yeah, whats up with that? is it something thats done but never spoken about? like this alleged "clique" i've seen in various posts.
From Columbia University: Special K is the street name for the drug Ketamine. Other names by which it is known are Ketalar, Ketaject, and Super-K. Ketamine is closely related to PCP, and it produces very similar effects. Like PCP, Ketamine use produces a reaction called a dissociative state, and also like PCP, Ketamine is known to cause bad reactions in some of its users. However, unlike PCP, Special K is a legal prescription drug intended for use as an anesthetic for people and large animals. In recent years, Ketamine has begun to be used recreationally. Similar to PCP, Ketamine can have a significant impact on coordination, thought, and judgment, and it can produce agitation, violence, confusion, and communication difficulties.
thank you ma'am. now why didn't i think of just looking it up. as a person that gets fed up with threads on this bbs asking questions that can easily be looked up... well color me ashamed.
Just to clarify, I'm at work and prefer to not visit any drug related sites while here. I would have looked it up myself if I was at home. But thanks anyway!
Taken from http://www.thegooddrugsguide.com/ which is a very honest site for those of you who are actively experimenting with drugs, for the fact that it gives a perfectly objective and unbiased breakdown of all "designer" or trendy drugs you might not know much about firsthand. Once again, I am not glorifying or promoting drug usage...I just know from personal experience that if you're gonna do it, you're gonna do it. So at least don't be stupid like I have in the past. Ketamine is a fast-acting 'dissociative anaesthetic'. It works by shutting down the body's nerve paths, leaving respiratory and circulatory functions intact. Since 1970, it has been popular in medicine in the UK and US and all over the world as a safe anaesthetic for children and the elderly.(1) It is also used by vets on animals for short operations, hence it being dubbed a "horse tranquiliser". Find out more about Ketamine's use in medicine here. appearance Ketamine comes in three main forms. The most common form is white powder which is snorted. It looks like cocaine but is smoother and less likely to form hard rocks or a flowery texture if damp. Most users start out by taking Ketamine in powdered form as it allows them to introduce themselves to the drug with small amounts. At low doses, K is a mild if weird stimulant. At medium to high doses, it becomes a very powerful paralysing psychedelic. It effects are like a combination of cocaine, cannabis, opium, Nitrous Oxide, and alcohol. When Ketamine separates or dissociates the mind from the body, the brain is freed from the usual business of reacting to sensations from the body. Perception increases to fill the gap vacated by the senses and gives rise to Ketamine's more mind-expanding effects. onset The K effect is very rapid. In 10-20 minutes you may find yourself hardly able to move and, at higher doses, even approaching out-of-body and near-death experiences. peak At the height of the experience, you may experience dazzling insights, hallucinate and even feel yourself communicating with forces, entities and elements you were never conscious of before. Users often fall into a deep trance state. Their eyes may move sightlessly from side and side, and their bodies may assume bizarre postures. Try to tell someone about it and you're likely to mumble monosyllabic and nonsensical inanities. Some people find it a life-changing and even spiritual experience. Others find it a lonely and unemotional experience. Whatever you make of it - it's intense. comedown A Ketamine trip usually only lasts between 45 and 90 minutes, regardless of dosage. The experience can be much shorter if you have high tolerance. The effects wear off very rapidly after effects If you've ever had an operation under anaesthetic, you'll recognise that lousy post-operative feeling after a strong Ketamine trip. There are few other after-effects other than this general drowsiness. You might feel wiped out, a bit achy, and not ready for anything too loud or too complicated. Sometimes you may feel rather disorientated or even a bit shell-shocked, as Ketamine is a very extreme experience at higher doses. Many people feel energized after a Ketamine experience and have a strong urge to move around, dance or stretch. Long term, some users can be so overcome by what they regard as the superior reality of Ketamine-land that they can retreat from the real world into the K-world. We're not kidding. See Tales From The K-Hole. in the brain Ketamine's effects on the brain are well documented. It mainly binds to and blocks glutamate receptors (also as N-P receptors) all over the brain. Glutamate is an excitatory neurotransmitter. It turns on cell activity and is part of the computer-like on / off mechanism that underlies brain activity. Ketamine blocks glutamate activity, giving rise to either entire cell bank shutdown in some brain areas or changes in the way cell clusters integrate or interpret incoming data in others. Overall, the result is the much famed K-Hole effect: certain brain parts go into temporary hibernation, mainly the senses and physical sensations, while others - imagination, and other unnamed perceptions from the depths of the mind - are amplified.(1) Thanks to its use in medicine, Ketamine is relatively safe compared with most recreational drugs. There have been numerous human clinical trials and its effects, long and short term, are well documented and understood. Nevertheless, recreational drug use is not controlled medical use overdosing Overdosing on a self-administered dose of Ketamine is nearly impossible because it has a wide safety margin and you will pass out well before it can kill you. However, Ketamine is not a good drug to take outside the home. You're quite likely to fall down, get run over, or at least make a complete fool of yourself. Talking, moving or even going to the toilet is not easy; it's important to be in a safe environment with, ideally, one non-participating friend. physical dangers At high doses, Ketamine can be physically incapacitating, even paralysing. Make sure you extinguish all cigarettes, candles and anything flammable that could be knocked over. long term dangers Some emerging research suggests that heavy and prolonged Ketamine use can cause brain damage, in the form of 'Olney's lesions' or 'vacuoles.' However these vacuoles were found on rats injected with Ketamine and experiments on monkeys have failed to produce similar results. This is probably one reason why the Federal Drugs Administration (FDA) in the US has not removed medicinal Ketamine from the marketplace. (1)
