Have the Rockets played themselves OUT of a good trade?

Jordan Hill

 

Can't blame DD for Hill though.

 

Interesting topic but I don't see how the thread title connects to your post, I thought it was going to be how the DM waited too long to make a trade.

Anyway if you want to play the blame game, put the blame on 1-11. The two of them gave us the Garnett/Pau Gasol/Lebron effect, wherein they elevated the team to reach the playoffs every year, but in doing so prevented us from getting A class talent.The fact is, we're not even two years removed from the 1-11 era and our roster should look more like Toronto's and Cleveland rather than what it looks right now were it not for the machinations of the Wizard Morey.

As far as the team is concerned, I'm pretty happy with the core we have. Yes getting that superstar should be the priority, however getting the right role players are also important. Miami has the best player in the league and two top 20 guys and they still need roleplayers on the team. Boston has 4, may be 5 all star guys on the squad and they only have 1 ring to show for it. Scola, Lowry, KM, Hayes and Lee...those guys would be invaluable once we get that center and/or superstar.

 

Why not? I know you remember the thread started by DD that initiated Hill's downward spiral.

 

Is there any way to reverse jinx all this?

Some words fans could get together to chant before the deadline to bring on hope?

How about some lop-sided trade to Kings for Cousins? Let's all chant for that.

 

Courtney is affalo with 32 mins. He's a 4th,5th type option in this league. 3rd options now are highly skilled,all star quality players. Courtney is neither because he doesnt have the ability or mindset. Its not his fault, it is what it is.

 

From Chad Ford chat:

kasey (Houston)
What's the Rockets move now?

Chad Ford (1:39 PM)
Oh boy. Darryl Morey has been super active trying to package all of those assets into a star. He's tried to land Bosh, Melo, DWill, CP3 but no one seems to be in love with Kevin Martin, Luis Scola or any of his young assets. He's going to be creative and aggressive, but just not a lot of interest in what the Rockets are selling.

 

HEY MOREY, ANYTIME NOW! DO SOMETHING!

 

those players are the best pieces for a team that has a couple super stars. if they trade away their stars, it makes no sense to have these players. no team wants to be in a situation like rox now, with a super supporting cast but no super stars.

 

So the assets we have now that no one is interested in... who were those assets gathered up by?

 

Well considering Rafer Alston was the 3rd best player on the team before DM got the job I can't see why you should complain. Its not like he had a cornucopia of high draft picks waiting to be used. If he had better materials he would have created better assets, simple as that.

 

He left some bad karma on Terrence Williams too, maybe that's why Rick's afraid to take him off the bench, why initiate the curse and drive down his trade value?

 

UHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Kmart is a top ten scorer and he's ridiculously effecient scorer in all aspects of scoring. His problem is he is no Alpha Dog. He's a super sidekick. But you don't let him go unless you're getting a star in return.

 

Basically what I've been saying about these so called assets for a long time. Martin puts up numbers on crappy teams, scola is solid,but is a huge defensive liability. Lowry is not any better than session and he makes more. Lee is a 4th-5th type of player. Brooks is in a huge slump, chase is a bench player, hill is raw as well as williams and patterson seem like he will just be solid. Basically, a team full of low risk, type of upside.

 

Where is DD by the way? We need some patented DD hyperbole to properly usher in the era post-trade deadline.

 

Well players like Artest, Wafer and Landry just had to go huh... Bottom Line this team went from 2nd round to medicore. Injuries happened but You must work to expect the unexpected we knew T-Mac and Yao we hurt for a long time. No excuses.

 

It takes two to tango, and sometimes 3.

 

Nobody's - at least nobody with any realistic concept of the Rockets' roster - ever argued with you about that.

The issue is that you have claimed Morey/stats are resposnible for that mess.
He is responsible, he turned a bunch of mediocre, basically valueless or negative value assets (Landry, Alston, Ariza, Spanoulis, Expirings, 2nd rounders) into these low to medium value guys.

No, they're not superstars or high value players (at least other than arguably Martin), but they're better than what they would have had otherwise, which perversely is what keeps the Rockets in the late lotto netherworld.