I am for the 2nd amendment. I don't think the founding fathers envisioned armor piercing exploding bullets or concealable handguns by the way. I also don't think they envisioned VT, Columbine, and other tragedies. I think though the gov't should know if a nut-job owns 50 anti-tank weapons. Ya know, the guy might be planning something!
What if hand guns become much more powerful in the future? Like energy guns that can melt down a building? Should people be permitted to carry them? I have no problem if people want to carry muskets around.
I didn't bring up the gun issue, just the issue you had with people who have access and are willing to die. You need to step back and think about why you have so much "faith" in the government that anyone against it should be "monitored and reeled in" Also since you know absolutely nothing about firearms, stop spewing this brady group exploding bullets armor piercing garbage.
I know enough about firearms to know that they are dangerous. You need to think about why you think it's ok to monitor Muslims but not hate groups. I swear, it's almost as if you are one of these anti-gov't guys who think it's time to overthrow it. What is up with you dude?
A musket uses blackpowder. Anything that uses blackpowder is not a firearm. Your welcome. Next time use google though. TIA.
Quote me where I said that please? OH right the guy who screams I put words in his mouth is actually the biggest offender.
the issue isn't his politics, its the influence of the rhetoric of others that justify people's actions. so what groups do you think seung-hui cho was persuaded by?
Since guns came up, a question for gun owners: If there was a gun that came out that shot just as well as a very accurate pistol and fired just like it (same "feel", rate of fire, capacity) but only discharged some kind of tranquilizer / stun ray that was 100% guaranteed to knock out the target for a while...would you be okay with the outlawing of the use of bullet firing weapons? Heck, for hypotheticals sake, let's say they make assault rifle and shotgun versions too, for variety.
So let's get this straight, you are against the Patriot act, you are against the DHS monitoring muslim extremist groups, and you think the gov't shouldn't monitor anyone? Including potential terror cells? Right? I mean, seems that you are big on one-liners and attacks but very little about defining the position you are actually espousing. What is your position? In regards to how gov't should handle all types of groups that have in recent history committed or inspired extreme acts of violents.
Which ones was the 88 year old guy? Who cares, his feelings were obvious and they were decidedly left wing. Right-wingers didn't give a crap because they recognized him as a loon and instead tried to solve the problem rather than attack the other side.
Yes, I would like to know what they used in 1776. I am guessing they didn't use muskets since those are not fireamrs, according to fmullegun.
Seriously why should I even respond to you? You have twice now put words in my mouth and spouted about stuff that you have no idea about. My messege to you is this. In the same way the .gov used 9-11 to take away liberties, you are now supporting further liberties taken away and thought police. Didn't you get sick of hearing Gore and Kerry were not patriotic? Thought police for the loss.
first of all, I don't know how you associate some of those feelings with left wing. he felt alienated, and detached from regular society. you're reaching for the politics angle, based on him hating rich kids rich kids? that's utterly ridiculous. hating rich kids is a left wing platform? anyway please provide links to groups that supported his "politics" as that is the point of the thread. thanks
Talk to the BATFE not me. According to them a semi-auto rifle is an Assault Weapon. You guys know your info in this area is weak, so either google it or go on in ignorance. Seriously, what is the point of this.
The point is firearms have changed drastically over the years. What should we do when small firearms are capable of doing more damage than today's tanks? Everyone should have one of those as well I am sure.