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Has this years ridiculous Free Agency made anyone else kind of sick of the NBA?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by LonghornFan, Jul 2, 2016.

  1. gotsis

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    The current free agency class and the next really won the lottery.

    What's the penalty for not reaching the cap floor?
     
  2. malakas

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    why the heck are you even upset? This is good for the NBA.
    1) young athletic kids who are choosing between sports, will choose bball over others since the earning potential is bigger.
    2) international players who were reluctant to come over, seeing all this $ will come.

    More $=> more talent will gather.
     
  3. dockerland

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    I don't understand why everyone is so upset at the money being given to the current free agents, the caps has increased and they need to spend it on someone. It is a buyers market and with so many teams with cp space this was always going to happen.
     
  4. francis 4 prez

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    yeah, considering how people tend to be in ownership/labor matters when it comes to businesses/corporations, the siding with ownership in sports is always startling. i mean i get that as fans, our viewpoint of the team we root for is essentially that of owning the team, but considering the players are what actually make us love the sport, it's still really strange.
     
  5. francis 4 prez

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    you are correct, you just pay your current players the difference. but i guess it's tough to sell an owner on the fact that he has to fork over extra money for no extra talent when the extra talent is just sitting out there.
     
  6. francis 4 prez

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    but the consumer is why the nba has all of this money. and the consumer is obviously happy and willing to pay this money because they are currently doing it. the nba's entire pursuit is to generate as much money from the consumer as possible. they would just be fighting that by trying to give money back to the consumer. no business is going to purposely lower profits.
     
  7. Rocket_Man_2.0

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    I can accept superstar players getting ridiculous money...but this offseason it's scrubs getting ridiculous contracts...it pisses me off!:mad:
     
  8. AroundTheWorld

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    Agreed.
     
  9. roslolian

    roslolian Rockets Only Fan

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    What are you talking about? Somebody paid them the money, so obviously they already earned it. If you hate them making so much money then don't watch the NBA, the only reason guys like them are making these contracts is because the NBA is popular now. Everyone's gonna make money like these, Conley's just the first one who got paid. In fact, the cap is gonna go up even more next year so there's a high chance players next year will get even more money.
     
  10. ThatBoyNick

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    Dude, scrubs have been making more then most of us will ever see in our lifetime for decades, if your mad at other people getting cash fine but dont single out ballers, a lot of these dudes grew up poor, good for them.
     
  11. Raven

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    This is something Morey talked about years ago. There's a difference between what a player is worth and what they can get.
     
  12. whag00

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    Yup. I think it's because we know how much money Parsons/ Bazemore/ Mozgov etc got paid. But we don't know how much money the Grizzlies/ Hawks/ Lakers made. That influences or changes our perception of athlete salaries.

    The Packers are the only team in sports (I think) where we know how much they made. And they profited 50 million last year. Not bad.
     
  13. B-Bob

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    Mainly agree with KellyDwyer here.

    I find the money levels fascinating and wonder what the owners are truly raking in now. And most of them rake it in for putting terrible products on the court in the end. Les included.

    To me, it seems a little unsustainable. But I guess with all the streaming options these days, sports offer an increasingly rare opportunity to advertisers. But the product is not that great these days, night in and night out, but the money flowing into the league is incredible.

    Anyway, the contract values, OP, don't make me sick of the NBA at all. It strikes me actually as kind of socialist in a way. Lebron is so, so underpaid, versus his actual worth to the Cavs and the league. And a bunch of other guys, versus what they contribute, are so overpaid. But that's kind of what collective bargaining does. In the end, I'm glad the players have argued for their share. They are, by far, the most important part of the league. The management does not strike me as very talented, other than a few exceptions of course.
     
  14. heypartner

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    To add to francis 4 prez' remarks, in any auction bidding reaches new heights when there are more bidders. So, not only did the Cap jump 35% to overrun raises by a large margin (as francis 4 prez states), but the jump got nearly all teams cap room, at historical levels for some owners...thus we have more bidders to up the ante.
     
  15. MorningZippo

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    There's a huge misconception that 35% notional increases are equivocal to real 35% increases.

    Hell, since the last cap increase, inflation alone has increased 27%.

    The actual increase in basketball related income has been fairly small.

    What should really scare you guys, is how little buying power we all have. It's not NBA players getting all time highs, it's the owners with compounding assets getting the increasing slices of pie when compared to the money supply.
     
  16. morpheus133

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    It's not a random number that sets the salary cap or a random increase this year. It's based on the total profits of the league. They just slightly shifted the percent the players get vs how much the owners get. Now the salary cap is 49% of the total profits and the owners get 51% of the profits. So you can only imagine what the owner profits are like.
     
  17. ivanyy2000

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    The problem is a water down league with fewer talents.

    The production is terrible and half of the teams are just straight garbage. The gap between good teams and bad teams are so huge.

    A lot of the games are not competitive.

    I haven't spent a cent on NBA for years and will continue to do so.
     
  18. MemphisX

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    The NBA is as good or better than it has ever been and the revenue reflects that fact. We just had one of the historically worst run franchises sell for $2 billion. Did that not disgust the OP? That a subhuman like Sterling can run a team into the ground and still make such a profit upon selling the team?
     
  19. sun12

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    You do not get it.

    The 1% will get much richer in the next 10 years while the rest is like you.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Guys.<br>ESPN/TNT just paid the NBA $24 BILLION. Either the owners keep nearly All of it, or half goes to the players. <br>This version is better.</p>&mdash; Rachel Nichols (@Rachel__Nichols) <a href="https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/749061673907085312">July 2, 2016</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Again: this isn’t about “value.” It’s about “math.”</p>&mdash; David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) <a href="https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/749256062625198080">July 2, 2016</a></blockquote>
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