There is always someone complaining about the quality of 'the mainstream' during a given time period. It is always ****ty to someone. The conclusion? We're all getting old. The End.
Uhm.. I never said Kurt got a band and instantly hit it big.. The argument was why Nirvana stood out in a genre that had more time to develope then it did, and the significance of it's unique impact. And how it had nothing to do with ripping off any act or song, but the band itself. Neither Gish, nor Badmotorfinger had the impact "Nevermind" did, didn't quite cause the same commotion over the genre as it did. The musicians themselves thought the first few 1990 nationwide release of the grunge sound, through bands like Alice in Chains would be the farthest it would go, no one really thought it would explode as it did. It caught the artists themselves by surprise, including Nirvana. "Nevermind" just kept selling and selling and climbing and climbing to the top, "smells like teen spirit" became the flame that sparked the fuse, and anthem of it's generation. I never said Nirvana caused the movement or pioneered the genre. I'm saying grunge was there, had been there before Nirvana, it was going nowhere great, until Nirvana came along and gave it a kick in the rear. Here you had a genre that was institutionalize, established, sluggish it's way uphill, just when you think, "oh, another 'punk rock' thing", something to do on the muddy banks of boredom.. A band comes out of left field and skyrockets it to the mainstream audience. I'm just saying, that deserves credit, Nirvana by far had the greatest impact on grunge becoming full out mainstream.
It seems like there are less bands getting airplay at all today. Even somewhat mediocre songs are OK to listen to every once and a while, but to have to listen to it 10 times a day everyday drives it to crappiness. Even if you didn't really love the music from the mid to late 90s, at least there seemed like there was a lot more bands with different music. Even if its all mediocre, at least its not the same mediocre song every time.
Good god you have some horrible taste in music. To each their own I guess. Some people like bands that can't play their instruments too well and moan and scream through their songs. And some people like myself prefer bands that actually have musical ability. Do you honestly think any of your crappy grunge bands are going to be remembered in another decade, like a Led Zeppelin, a Black Sabbath, an Iron Maiden, a Guns N Roses? Rusty Cage from Soundgarden and Heart Shaped Box by Nirvana, wow, two groundbreaking tracks there. Your grunge bands got alot of unwarranted radio airplay due to record company payola, but make no mistake, just because you hear em on the radio a million times a day doesn't mean they don't suck! Kurt Cobain blew his brains out because he knew the public couldn't be duped forever into believing the garbage he crapped out was anything resembling decent music. He knew it would end. Hell, even a second rate mediocre hair metal band like Tora Tora, Cinderella, or Bang Tango had more musical chops than the sorry grunge bands they played on the radio over and over and over again.
I absolutely admit that Nevermind was a commercial hit and influential. It didn't, however, give life to a genre that was as you say, "going the way of the dodo." Grunge was eventually going to get to the spotlight. It hasn't been the biggest commercial hit from grunge though. Ten went platinum 12 times, Nevermind 10. Grunge was going to explode regardless of Nevermind.
I suppose liking one genre of music means one has to like it exclusively. I love Bruce Dickinson, all of his solo stuff and with Maiden. Actually, Chemical Wedding is one of my all time favorite albums.
That's even more puzzling then. If you can recognize a talented artist like Bruce Dickinson, how in the world can you possibly enjoy listening to Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, etc??? They're just awful. A chore to listen to.
Lo siento mi amigo. Were you thinking Toto was so much worse than the others that they should not be included? The great thing about music is if YOU like it, then does anyone elses opinion really matter? I do so enjoy saying with conviction when a band sucks and pissing their fans off; but in the end it's only my opinion, and it is really worth nothing.
you kiddin me? Those were some of the best and most influential bands of the 90's. Keep rocking your Creed, buddy.
Look, man.. I admit Grunge was eventually going to get a bit o spotlight, sure.. Pearl Jam on it's own would've steadily dragged it up the sharp slope it's uninspirational premise seemed to almost assure hidden from the masses.. But, you're right, it wasn't the biggest commercial hit IN THE END in Grunge.. Pearl Jam takes that honor, as it were.. But, you have GOT to be kidding me if you actually think Grunge would've had the same kind of 'explosive' effect without Nevermind.. I'm sorry but what Pearl Jam carefully crafted, intricately pieced, self consciously molded piece of work was going to replace.. A song, not only officially named the anthem of an entire generation, THE explosion, but, also be inducted in the Library of Congress as culturaly, historically and aesthetically significant? Not to mention, in all releases of 1991-1992, stood alone in singles sales AROUND the world, while Pearl Jam slowly picked up pace with it's best three singles no further than number 3 in US sales? Hell, Nevermind had In Bloom and Come as You are doing just as extremely well internationally. Without Nirvana's "Nevermind", no way does Grunge have the same kind of impact, or leave such a precisely unforgettable mark as it did with it in the early 90's. Pearl Jam just didn't have such a raw swagger, though unintended, to make such international noise and stir the musical whirlwinds with one single album. Made good music, made great shows, just set nothing a blaze. I've no idea why it seems to pain people to the point of agony to give Nirvana it's well deserved credit. Kurt didn't pioneeer the sound, but his music sure carried the harder punch in the genre.
As, for you, Mr. Creed.. You are....an emotional, and musical.... r****d. I can see Led Zepplin collectively cringing.. knowing you've spoken well of them, on their behalf..
I expect that I will just have to agree to disagree. I like to admit that Nirvana was successful and was influential, but it is painfully obvious that I do not like them much. I would've been fine with your first post had it not said that Grunge would have disappeared had Nirvana not recorded Nevermind. You've just said grunge would've eventually get to the spot light. That's my beef. It's over. Done with.
Sounds like somebody on here feels a little embarrassed that they got suckered into buying some crappy grunge albums by Nirvana or Pearl Jam a decade ago and now they feel the need to lash out. Too bad sucker! PS. And if you actually believe any of the stuff I listed is any good, that's even funnier.
Bingo! My thoughts exactly. When Paris Hilton has music leaking and being played on the radio, you know it's bad, regardless of your age. Personally, I don't listen to 'air' radio- I listen to internet radio 95% of the time, since I drive about 20 minutes a week. Try some of the stations on Shoutcast.com and you may find one with newer music that you like.
