Has Lebron surpassed Magic/Bird in your All Time Greatest List?

Yes.

Top 10 at the moment.

I go by who was the best actual individual player. I value career playoff performance over regular season (better defenses/teams), offense and defense equally (with a little influence by position), Peaks equal to longevity and I also compare team support, competition and beneficial rules.

1. MJ
2. Hakeem
3. Kareem
4. Duncan
5. Shaq
6. LeBron
7. Magic
8. Bird
9. Russell
10. Wilt

 

Lebron is the better talent. I'd say Lebron is better than Bird and Magic 1v1 hands down. But as a team player and basketball fundamentals and IQ I'd still say Bird and Magic is better than Lebron.

 

I think Lebron may be the more all around complete player, but for some reason its just weird for me to think that Lebron is arguably the best player ever. I just don't get the feeling that he dominates like prior superstars did, and he doesn't have many classic, legendary moments either.

 

Lebron has more talent than both Bird and Magic, but has not accomplished as much yet. I'd say Lebron is the Magic Johnson of the modern era but defensively much more gifted. If he does not win 5 titles though, I'd say he would go down as a bit of a disappointment. I also don't think Lebron has accomplished as much as Kobe and Duncan either.