Has it finally happened? Have we found a replacement for Mobley?

yes, precisely. I wasn't implying they lacked the skills but merely that the best ones don't always go. Yao going this year was due to his popularity, not his production. Something like that happens every year, and in every sport where fans have the majority decision. Yao will see plenty of all star games but I can think of only one reason he was the starting center or Shaq and that is China.

 

Then how do players become marketable??? because they are sexy!?!?!

 

Because they are flashy. Vince Carter consistently is among the leaders in votes, he lead the East last year despite only playing in 10 games. Does that mean he is better than McGrady and Pierce? The most votes of any center was Yao Ming. Was he the best center last season?

 

I don't hate Francis at all. But I do hate the fact that we have an identical player in Mobely who counts only a fraction against the salary cap and everyone is so shortsighted that they'd rather get rid of Mobley.


....okay, maybe they aren't identical....

not that it's saying much, but Mobley does play a bit better D.

 

Not only would they rather get rid of Mobley, they suggest trading him for a late first round pick and 5 mil in throw ins.

 

my exact thoughts,lol

 

Excuse me.

But since when has Cuttino Mobley morphed into a superstar?

Did I miss something here?

Stats can be misleading, haven't we all learned this at some point and time?

Cuttino is a role player, who actually has to have the ball in his hands to take his patented fallaway jumper, or stands at the 3 point line and gets a pass and shoots.

He does not initiate the offense like francis does because he is not the playmaker francis is, nor the individual talent.

If you really think defenses around the NBA are setup to stop the Cat over Steve, and now Yao, well I really don't know what to say, other than the real world is through this door right over there, come join us.

Cuttino Mobley is the perfect NBA 6th man and an average NBA starting sg, but I do know why so many fans b**** at steve but love cat.

Its called money-which steve is making more of, and the fact francis is a lottery pick while mobley was a second rounder.

But this is insane. Cuttino doesn't have Steve's ability or potential. There is a reason Steve Francis averages 20-6-6 even during Yao's emergence and Mobley doesn't.

Cuttino is a nice role player who was a steal of a second round pick. Steve Francis has the ability to be a franchise guard who showed this year, he was willing to take and make crunch time shots, and after the all star break started to sacrifice his scoring to make the team better.

Cuttino also showed signs of deferrence to Yao, but even watching him do that, it was as if he looked entirely uncomfortable and frustrated. I get the same feeling I had with KT being a square peg that I get with Mobley now. We removed one of our problems and got our sf of the future hopefully to boot.

Now we need to give Mobley his fresh start, for the good of the team. He is a fans player like KT was, but you have to look past that and think about what makes the Rockets a championship team.

Most championship teams have a dominant big man and a dominant guard, or at least one of the two, but with the nature of today's NBA it will take both to win a 3rd championship I believe.

And we, as the fans, are lucky that our organization has them in Steve and Yao. Now we need the right role players around them, and posey is a good start along with cato.


Mobley can be one of them as our 6th man, but I don't expect or think he would accept should a role.

And that is why he needs to be traded this summer for either a tall pg, or a sg with pg vision-ie Jones or Barry, if you ask me.

 

For those of you who feel that Cuttino is even close to Steve in talent, that pure basketball illiteracy.

Some keep talking about Cuttino took less money to stay here. I remember the only team that really pursued Cat was Toronto and there offer was only slightly better than owers.

Cuttino is a 6th man on a good team.

 

LOL that's kinda hilarious in its own way... but way too controversial...

Clones? I doubt it... What SF brings to the team is much different from what Cat does. First, the numbers... shooting percentage.. yeah... but rebounds assists... those add up. I doubt Cat can bring up those numbers even if he's our "PG"

Next... it's nice to have a 10+ APG PG... but it's not really necessary. What the Rockets (in my opinion) need to do is to just have a passing game where ball movement became the key. I think the most important stat when it comes to assists is the TEAM's assist output. I, for one, believe in Calvin Murphy when he emphasized its importance. The TEAM's assist total reflects on how much ball movement was imposed... although some days shots might not go in, but if there's enough passing, there'll be enough good shots to pad that stat. Also, with a passing offense where the PG does NOt have to set up everyone's shots, you also take more energy out of the defense... creating better scenarios each time down the court...

back to the topic... Mobley and Francis are 2 completely different players. More often than not last year, Francis had to take all the last second shots; and although he made a lot of it, it can not possibly help his stats. To add to that, Francis developed the ability to catch and shoot (which he DOES need to do more often by passing first), I don't think Mobley can do that yet unless he dribbles a couple times first (Sorry if this seem like a direct rip off of Kenny Smith's all-star weekend line on Mooch) What's more important is, I get the feeling that Mobley is slowly shying away from the team, but that's just my sense on things going on. I just don't see any justifications on trading SF, especially not for what we will probably get for him.. which is another player + a pick. I don't see the positives in downgrading from an All-Star to a possibly average guard... Stats are overrated, but only if numbers are looked at one at a time. If one is to make any assumptions about 2 players based on stats alone... look at them all.. and I don't just mean FTs, FGs, 3s, Assists, Rebounds, TOs, etc etc... That's why places post situational stats. Different situations call for different results statistics-wise

 

With Rudy gone, is the Francis switch to the SG spot (and presumed trade of Mobley) off the menu? Or is that part of Carroll Dawson's agenda, which will survive the hiring of a new coach?

 

Who knows! If our new coach will be Larry Brown, which I HOPE TO GOD...then Steve will probably move to the 2. Maybe Larry will bring Eric Snow along. Aaron Mckie would be nice too.

 

Of your six posts in a row, lets respond to this one. On 3pt fg% Steve shoots 0.2 percentage points higher than Mobley. You would have to shoot 500 3's to make 1 more. That is why I said they shoot the same percentage for 3. If you are that nit-picky about it, fine. Steve shoots (.2 percentage points) better from three. Now, on 2pt fg:

Francis: 45.2%
Mobley: 46.8%

I don't know how you use these numbers to verify that Steve shoots a higher percentage inside the arc, but maybe our Earth math is just inferior to yours. These are not career numbers by the way. I only mentioned career numbers in relation to Cat probably being a better three-ball shooter, given that their 3 shooting this year was nearly identical. Oh, and yes, Stupid is indeed (part of) my Moniker. b****.

 

Can we make a rule for the rest of this thread?

You aren't allowed to post unless you call someone a name that has to have to ***** in it.

Oooops I didn't call anyone a name what ****head I am.