Does anyone have a "snopes" proof link to this story? I am dying to poke fun at a friend from Harvard?
The students who started it don't object to the p*rn label, so maybe it is a p*rn mag. Whichever. If I was Harvard, if I let them run it, I'd be very careful about the use of my trademarks and copywrited materials and whatnot in there. At my college (University of Chicago), one of the students did some online p*rnography with her boyfriend for money. It caused a little on-campus scandal. She told the paper that she didn't like her financial aid package and it was a great and easy way to make good money. The university was upset about it and the head of the financial aid office said they'd look at her financial aid package and see if they couldn't do more for her (like it was really about whether she'd borrow $40,000 or $50,000). Ultimately, the p*rn made it back to her parents and that might have been the end of it -- I lost track after that.
Really! I have a friend from Harvard as well. He'd think this was hilarious. And that was a funny post, bama.
I don't see the big deal if it's just one publication by an private academic institution, and they are not trying to defame or libel people. There seems to be a much bigger problem. How about Christian p*rn? http://www.newsday.com/news/nationw...,0,6385151.story?coll=sns-ap-nation-headlines Billboards Target Christian p*rn Addicts By BOBBY ROSS JR. Associated Press Writer February 12, 2004, 2:21 PM EST DALLAS -- Chocolates are always nice, and a diamond necklace would be delightful. But a Dallas-based ministry thinks it has a better idea for Valentine's Day. "Her gift for Valentines? Stop looking at p*rn," proclaim billboards put up by NetAccountability, a nonprofit software company that aims to help Christians confront the "secret sin" of p*rnography. If national surveys are any indication, it is a personal battle waged by millions of Christians. Almost 18 percent of people who called themselves born-again Christians admitted visiting Internet p*rn sites, according to a 2000 survey of 1,031 adults by the evangelical group Focus on the Family. In a 2002 Pastors.com survey, more than 50 percent of responding pastors reported viewing p*rnography in the previous year. . . .
This stuff happened a year or two after I graduated, but I was still living in the neighborhood. I graduated in 1997. If I don't know the Strauss you're referring to, does that mean no?
Leo Strauss is probably the greatest political philosopher of the 20th Century. Did you graduate from the school of social thought or the undergraduate school? Guys like Allan Bloom and Henry Jaffa wouldn't be around without him.
You confused me by thinking I might be a great deal older than I am. Leo Strauss died before I was born, so I didn't think you could be referring to him. But then, it is hard to guess age on the web. Allan Bloom, incidentally, died a year or two before I arrived at the school and you could still feel his presence on campus. While we're talking about my school, have you seen Proof (just produced by the Alley Theatre)? That was written by a U of C alumnus a couple of years ahead of me and it's set at the school. Did a good job of capturing the culture of the school, complete with professor-worship. Wait, aren't we supposed to be talking about p*rn?
I guess I also thought of you as this 55 year old Latino guy hanging out in the nice part of the Third Ward reading great books. The U of C thing makes it all come together and why you examine topics a little bit more in depth than other people on the board. Oh yeah I mean p*rn. p*rn p*rn p*rn. All of my professors were U of C grads. They were all pretty awesome.
JV, Since the thread has been derailed a bit and we are talking about U of C, were WJT Mitchell (Art History and Literature) and Charles Rosen (music theory) there when you were? I think so. What, if anything, do you know of them? Probably less of a name for you, but pretty sure she was there - Martha Ward (art history)?
Cool, another University of Chicago Graduate! My graduation is next month, should be fun! I take it you did not study business there, because you are not referring to it as the GSB?
I'd like to think that Havard accept only students that has already done all of that. Heck most people from my highschool probably did all of that before our junior year (study greek mythology in our first 2 years i think).
Not at a college level, with a college professor. They also need to sit down with Plato, Parmenidies, Aristotle, Aquinas, etc. Not too many people read those. They also need to read source texts for American History, not fabricated textbook crap. Read de Tocqueville, read the Federalist papers! And then, they should also make an examination of Euclid's geometry, Thucydides Pelopenisian War, Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations, Dante's Inferno, etc. etc. etc. The Illiad and the ODyssey, by the way, are about a lot more than Greek Mythology (there's actually very little mythology in it)
I dunno what university you went to, but I studied all of the above during my college years, and I was a business major at a small public university.
What years, because this isn't standard anymore. Also did you read the source texts, or did you just read about them...?
Upper level, sure - and it does happen. Surveys - no way. Although there is a great survey book on the French Revolution that has excerpts from primary sources as well as a cd-rom that has all of the full texts and also images from the time: Liberty, Equality, Fraternity: Exploring the French Revolution Jack Censer, Lynn Hunt, and others.
your right, if you just stick to the bare min general requirements you might miss a lot of what you talked about. I just graduated in 2002. I chose to take lit, philosophy, history, sociology, and anthropology classes that were beyond the general ed requirements. But even in my freshman history classes we had to read the Federalist papers (not all 84 though!). I wish I had the appreciation for them then, that I do now, if you know what I mean. The Federalist http://memory.loc.gov/const/fed/fedpapers.html
That's good you did that because a lot of people don't. My school had 4 english, 4 history, 4 philosophy, 2 art, 1 math, 4 foreign language, 1 politcal philosophy (American founding class), 1 Eco, 2 sciences, and 2 Theology in our core curriculum. This is pretty rare these days where all students have to take the same excact classes before branching off into their majors. 15 of these courses were the exact same and ten were of our own choosing, i.e. what language, sciences, and arts you would take. Pretty cool if you ask me because most (nearly 93 % I would say) of college Freshman have no idea what they should take. Most waste their time.
Aww ****, I thought I was alone. I just did undergrad there. You're in the GSB? I hope you recognize and appreciate the good life they give you at the expense of the hapless, downtrodden undergraduate population. twhy, you got me part right. Except I'm 28 instead of 55, Franco-Texan and not Latino, and the part of Third Ward I live in ain't so nice. You got the good books part right (except I haven't read as much since I got addicted to Counter Strike). Rimbaud, I recognize Charles Rosen, but that's about it. Woofer, interesting article.
