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Harrasing Black Voters in Florida

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Oski2005, Aug 19, 2004.

  1. bamaslammer

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    Never happened, Andy. These claims are false. More lies from the masters of the lie, Democrats.
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Do you just decide what happened and what didn't, or do actual facts enter into your thinking?
     
  3. bamaslammer

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    There is no proof of this. We heard about it constantly from the left-wing hate-Bush crowd, but we have yet to see one person brought forward who was actually denied their right to vote because they were black.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    It may not have technically been because they were black, but there have been black people who were listed as felons that weren't actually felons and were denied their right to vote.
     
  5. bamaslammer

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    Well, there we go then. They were not denied the vote simply because of their skin color, but because of reasonable effort to keep convicted felons, who should lose the vote for the rest of their lives. As TJ would say........
    CASE CLOSED
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    It's not closed, because people were denied their legal right to vote. Most of those people happened to be minorities.

    Technically, the poll taxes and other laws meant to keep Black people from voting wasn't because they were black. In reality that is exactly who they were trying to keep from voting.
     
  7. bamaslammer

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    Well, the problem would have been that those evil, nasty, racist Republicans deliberately kept people from voting. Since you've already acknowledged that fact, the fact that it was not an attempt to purposely keep minorities away from the polls, it is a non-issue. It's not some evil Republican plot.
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    I don't care which party is responsible, the fact is that people were denied democracies most basic right. It does turn out that they are mostly minority voters who would historically have voted for Democrats.

    Whoever is responsible, for whatever reasons should be stopped.
     
  9. AggieRocket

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    This is ridiculous! Denying people the right to vote is someone that fits the character of the very despots that we as Americans are supposedly trying to rid the world of. It's amazing to see how far the Bushes are willing to go to guarantee 4 more years of hell.
     
  10. bigtexxx

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    Who was denied the right to vote? Please pay attention to the entire thread, Aggie.

    What's truly amazing in my eyes is how far the NY Times will go in exaggerating the truth in an effort to sell newspapers to their merry band of liberal worshippers.
     
  11. Jeff

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    No, what is truly amazing is that if this were a pack of elderly white GOP supporters having their votes challenged or questioned by a predominantly Deomcrat-led administration, anything said on Fox News would suddenly become the whole truth and nothing but the truth to you btx.

    Seriously, do you guys on either side of the debate ever get tired of saying the same crap over and over? Liberal media bias. Vast right-wing conspiracy. You all sound like Art freaking Bell. I'd put more faith in a homeless guy telling me that satellites were spying on him than on some of you guys' theories.
     
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    This piece in the New York Times was particularly bad. What angers me is that many people are under the impression that the New York Times is an objective, unbiased newspaper, and that's just not the case. This piece needed to be called out, especially after the left-leaning crowd started the outrage routine after reading the article.

    This is part of my overall dissatisfaction with how this country is educated. People learn from watching TV, movies and reading newspapers like the NY Times. The control that these media have over people's opinions and behavior is sickening to me.
     
  13. Jeff

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    Ok, so give me your unbiased news source.
     
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    I'm not saying a completely unbiased news source exists. I just want people to be aware that these media outlets which many people consider to be the truth are far from unbiased.
     
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    no such thing, Jeff
     
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    Texxx.... when armed police officers go to the homes of elderly, black voters to frighten and intimidate them, that is in essence denying people the right to vote. Nowadays, you can't go to people and flat out say that they cannot vote. This is the way they do it.
     
  17. Jeff

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    I'm not questioning that, but it is one thing to suggest that bias exists and another to completely discount everything that is reported by a media outlet because of a perceived bias. Setting aside the obvious one's for the moment - Fox, NY Times, NPR and the like - there are places like the AP, Reuters, the Washington Post, the LA Times, the Christian Science Monitor and quite a few others that do a better than average (sometimes excellent) job of reporting the news.

    Most local newspapers are, at the very least, adequate if unspectacular. Broadcast news is nearly all bad but some programs are passable.

    I just think that most are more than willing to accept news as true if they believe it because it falls in line with their own ideology. If it doesn't, they'll use whatever means necessary to discredit it and pretend it is wrong no matter what the source.
     
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    So are some of you actually saying that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the voting process in the USA?

    Seriously? Isn't the fact that the 2000 problems occurred enough to result in a call for reform on both sides?
     
  19. GladiatoRowdy

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    Very well put.
     

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