Harden's mother: "He is doing the best for his career...He is asking for a chance to get a ring”

You gotta do you jerb

 

Harden has the option to do whatever he wants because the franchise (and the league in general) has empowered him to do so.

What are the Rockets going to do? Suspend him, dock his pay. We are a long way from that I am sure. Tilman is learning first hand that this isn't his shitty hospitality empire or the power moves he tries to pull off with college athletics. This is the big leagues and you are not in charge if you want to keep a player of Harden's caliber happy.

 

ITA.

The outrage over players asking for a trade is silly. Players have a right to ask for a trade just as the team has a right to trade a player whenever they want.

The notion that a major problem is players sitting out and demanding trades is nonsensical in reference to the nba. There has been close to zero case of that happening the past decade. Sure they'll threaten and posture... (As is their right) But when push comes to shove, they show up to collect their checks.

AD wanted out and he continued to fulfill his contract with the pelicans. So did pg-13 so did butler, irving and so and so on.

Harden will eventually report and fulfill his contract or he won't get paid. Like any other work contract in the world. The rockets leverage is the 2 years left o that contract, which doesn't decrease if he holds out.

Hardens leverage is time and value. The less time remaining on his contract the higher the leverage harden has and the less value the rockets can trade him for.

Harden won't sit out and lose $$ like 99% of nba players - this ain't the nfl. But he can make it clear that he wants out and want the nets or some other team... That's his leverage

 

Im sorry but this is a whole lot of disingenuous arguments here. Coaching was up to snuff, who else beat the Durant Warriors, no one. Paul got injured, that's what happens sometimes. We were very close the next year but ownership killed our chances. It did not consistently fail spectacularly in the playoffs. I dont know what you are talking about. Like every time we have failed in the playoffs, we have lost to the more talented team. EVERY SINGLE TIME. I dont know what you are talking about. If anything, our system put us in position to succeed. Harden has had bad playoff game LIKE EVERY SINGLE OTHER SUPER STAR OUT THERE.

What Harden is doing now sucks and its horrible move. But as far as basketball goes, you have written a lot of narrative based arguments here.

 

I think if Tilman plays it right, there are a few outcomes that benefit him by not giving in.

• Shifting the narrative from his broke ass not wanting to pay luxury tax to an organization that has done everything to appease a spoiled star.
• Potentially providing a playbook to handle these types of situations, making him look like someone who actually knows what he's doing (Even though he doesn't.
• If Harden doesn't play, they could suspend him without pay and sit him until a good enough deal comes along. Tilly saves $40mil and can't be blamed if the team comes out flat.

I know that probably won't sit well with potential FA in the future but there's gotta be a way to handle these situations when a player tries to hold an organization hostage.

 

I couldn’t give two ***** about what his mom has to say

 

Dude you are really tough to have a discussion with. You refuse to believe facts that don’t suit what you say. And just explain it away with nonsense. You clearly stated in the post I replied to that OKC just “let Russ be Russ” and empowered him to play his stupid way.

False. Reports from the guy who had THE BEST access to OKC org stated on many occasions coaches and management tried to get him to understand that he has poor efficiency in certain areas. They tried to help him be better and he refused.

Has Westbrook ever had an efficient year?

League average scoring efficiency is around 55% True shooting.

Westbrook’s career high shooting efficiency season......55.4%

One of the highest volume shooters in the league barely managed to score at league average for a couple seasons.

Every player believes his next shot is going in? So then why doesn’t every player just take every shot they can? In their minds it’s going in... that’s right....because a lot of players have basketball IQ. An awareness of their capabilities as a player. Which Westbrook has rarely if ever had.

You seem to think we live in this world where we don’t have statistical data that is impacting decisions. We know that Westbrook pull up jumpers have never been a good shot because we have the results of what happens when he takes pull up jumpers. We know the results of what happens when an average James Harden step back 3 is taken, it’s an extremely positive play. The Warriors know that the average result of your average crazy 3 that Steph Curry takes is extremely positive. This is not the case for Westbrook for anything other than layups.

 

The “player empowerment” era continues to embarrass the NBA and Adam Silver for allowing this. There will be other stars that follow suit.

But oh well. Maybe we get a nice pick for him. Who cares at this point?

 

Her son should learn to get along with players

Howard
Paul
Westbrook

The last one he forced bc we were trying to keep his candy ass happy. You don’t get to call shots after we mortgaged our future

 

Self-righteous passive aggressiveness.

Did Sam Presti win the James Edward Harden trade?

 

I mean.. by this logic Lebron isn’t a champion which is silly. He formed the big 3 to get a ring. It’s what players do in today’s game.

 

You should. There isn’t any speculation or “sources”.

She’s provided some good insight to what is going on with James right now.

 

No you don't.

There is nothing that forces Harden or the vast majority of people to show up to work other than fear of financial lost.

The Rockets can enforce the remedies in the CBA and that is it.

 

Ok, but **** Dwight Howard already. Please quit bringing him up in this conversation. He was a broken down role player who thought he was Hakeem Olajuwon. He has played on 6 teams in 6 years since he left. We can discuss James and Chris's relationship for the next 5 years, but I am sick of people bringing up Dwight.

 

It's amazing that somehow Howard is a victim of the evil Harden who just can't get along with superstars.

Let's just forget how he left Orlando and Lakers before coming here or since he has left.

Let's also forget how Paul left the Clippers and the stories surrounding that.

 

I dont want people to bring up Westbrook either. Chris Paul you can bring up all day every day.

 

James Harden should take the money, stay in HOU. Forget the ring. Listen to the old dudes.



The money Harden's making is not just his lifetime; it's generational wealth, money that his great grand kids can use and be taken care of.

 

Explain farther.

 

James Harden might have done the same thing with OKC. He didn't sign the contract for less. The Thunder traded Harden away. Because the Owner is cheap.