Hardening Schools

Think back to the Sandy Hook shooting: the killer shot through the windows surrounding a locked door and opened it in order to enter the building. The door was "hardened" and it didn't matter.

It's the access to guns, not the buildings.

 

Sounds like that door was improperly hardened. But sure, on the more general point, buildings generally have windows that can easily be entrance points for a fit person with a gun.

 

Everything you stated in Smart Solutions is happening now.. At least in the Plano, Allen, Frisco and Mckinney ISD... So how the heck did he get into the school....

Up here you have to be buzzed in and they have a system like the Ring Camera.....

T_Man

 

I still say make the ammo expensive as HELL... No way you can stop guns from being bought in the streets, alleys, etc... But hard do damage with a gun if you have no ammo....

T_Man

 

How are schools supposed to buzz in when they have classes in multiple buildings? Will students have to buzz in every time they go to class in another building? Will they have to go through metal detectors at every building? Will there need to be armed guards in each building?

The high school I teach and coach at has 8 different buildings classes are held in. The only way we could create a “one entrance” situation is to put a fence around the entire school. That would mean people would have to buzz in to go to basketball and football games.

And now we’re talking about fences around schools, metal detectors, getting buzzed in, armed guards, armed teachers, no cell phones during classes… at least these kids will be ready for prison when they grow up.

We need to stop beating around the bush. These gun enthusiasts need to go ahead and say it, the most important aspect of our lives in the United States is our right to buy guns, children’s physical and mental well-being be damned.

 

Just a point but . .. didn't ole boy jump the fence?

Rocket River

 

Wearing masks will destroy kids' psyche and mental health. But spending 14 years in prison-like environments with active shooter drills and such is totally fine.

 

Wait, no cell phones in class? Who is supposed to call 911 while the shooter is distracted? Or maybe we put red buttons under each desk like at Alamo Drafthouse that directly alert a SWAT team? Trying to look at practical solutions only here.

 

Yeah, what tween would even consider randomly pressing a red alert button under their desk all damn day?

My god, I am so freaking lucky to have grown up when I did. Who cares that I'm 90 years old (at heart)?

 

Touche. But, looking at photos, I think they had a 5-foot high chain link fence. Even at my age, I could jump that. Fence is probably semi-effective at keeping soccer balls from rolling into traffic, but that's it. An 8-foot wrought iron fence is still scalable, but fewer people can do it, it takes longer, makes the climber more conspicuous, and leaves the climber more vulnerable.

Yeah, I don't get that. I want my kids to have their cellphones in class. Turned off, if teachers insist. But, that is their primary safety equipment.

 

And harder still carrying an AR-15, but of course... schools would look more and more like prisons. You're basically putting (gasp) a huge metal mask on kids' waking reality.

 

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has announced a new school safety review process that will include "in-person, unannounced, random intruder detection audits on school districts."

Why it matters: On Wednesday, Abbott called on state lawmakers to find solutions to "prevent future school shootings," in the wake of the mass shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas.

Driving the news: Abbott sent a letter to Dr. Kathy Martinez-Prather that directed the Texas School Safety Center (TxSSC) to ask for school districts' School Safety and Security Committees to meet before the new school year and review their emergency plans and address any needs.

• The letter requested schools make sure their threat assessment teams, as well as all staff, including substitute teachers, are "trained on their specific district and campus safety procedures."
• Abbott also asked the TxSSC to conduct "unannounced, random intruder detection audits on school districts" in order to "assess access control measures of Texas school districts."
• He also asked the TxSSC to work with his office to develop new security systems.

State of play: Texas school districts conduct safety and security audits every three years, The Texas Tribune reports.

• Schools are asked to provide a summary of the audits to the Texas Association of School Boards.
• Axios has reached out to the governor's office for clarification.

The big picture: Abbott asked state lawmakers to develop new solutions for school safety, mental health, social media, police training and firearm safety in order to "prevent future school shootings."

• Gun control was not listed among the areas of focus.

 

This seems like a horrible idea for multiple reasons.

 

There was actually a prototype done for this in the 80s. Maybe worth dusting off for when we start handing out ARs with your drivers license:

Spoiler

 

Give teachers guns, have random auditor shot. If they aren't shot, then fine the school for failing the audit.
Sounds like a great idea to me.

 

A very tasty nothingburger. Yum.

 

I can't believe that grown well adjusted adults actually thought of this idea and decided to make that idea public in a press release. For **** sakes.

Surprise fake intruder? Jesus ****ing Christ no way a adult with a fully functioning brain thought of that idea outside of trolling someone.

 

I doubt that's what it will look like. More like a guy shows up and rings the bell, shows his badge, and then is escorted around the building to test doors, alarms, cameras, interview people, etc. Seems like a fine idea to me.

 

Hahaha. Owned... as in I owned that terrible album.

 

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) has ordered Texas officials to conduct “in-person, unannounced, random intruder detection audits” at school districts after a shooting at an elementary school last month left 21 people dead.

“I am charging the [Texas School Safety Center], in coordination with [Texas Education Agency], to develop and implement a plan to conduct random inspections to assess access control measures of Texas school districts. Among other reviews, your team should begin conducting in-person, unannounced, random intruder detection audits on school districts,” he wrote to the Texas School Safety Center’s (TxSCC) director, Kathy Martinez-Prather.

“Staff should approach campuses to find weak points and how quickly they can penetrate buildings without being stopped. This will help determine if schools are prepared to implement and follow the [School Safety Emergency Operations Plans] they have already submitted to the state,” he added.