Not necessarily, I absolutely did not want ANY players in the harden deal because to me tanking was the only priority
I look at the Nets assets as sort of a wash to the haul we gave up to trade CP3 for Russ. The best assets we have gotten from trading Harden is the chance to draft Jalen Green and the top 5 pick this Summer. Other than that we basically just reset a normal schedule of at least one draft pick a year. Sometimes two. Sometimes a chance to swap. Every year the Rockets have a good chance at adding a quality player but most likely that only turns into a superstar either with Jalen or the pick this year… unless we suck this bad again and again.
Well you and I are slightly off then (at that time). Jarrett Allen is what the prototypical center is becoming. JJJ types that can 1) protect the rim 2) rebound 3) mix of interior/perimeter defender 4) run the floor to keep PACE high. Even better if said center can shoot 3's. As easy to say he was hurt as it was with C Wood, Eric Gordon and John Wall. As many saw this year, Jarrett Allen made the Cavs look and play good......not so much when he was out.
Ya but my concern was allen helping win games and hurting the chance at a top pick. That to me is worth more then a good starter
Were you worried Eric Gordon, John Wall, C Wood would hurt the tank? . Watching this podcast gave me much more respect for J G
Not likely, J Allen is hurt as often as C Wood and Eric Gordon is....so it's easy to sit them. You act like Oladipo was a card board cut out. Patrick traded for him in hopes he would stay long term. Rockets had to trade Harden for somebody though Nets found that out too, the hard way (or Har-den way)
This. The purist in me says that Oladipo (turned into the Christopher pick) and the Nets picks and swaps. Green and whoever we get in this year's high pick are the side effects of tanking and good luck, not the direct return of the Harden trade. We haven't used any of the Nets picks/swaps yet. So we'll see.
I’m betting at least one of the Nets picks/swaps turns into top 4. I hope they hold on to them and see how it plays out. Would be nice to see the rockets do well down the road but still rewarded as if they were a bad to mediocre team.
What would you have done? Taken the Simmons/Thybulle deal? How would that do for team wins vs J Allen who we could sit easily? As I said, holding on to Harden was not an option
Just food for thought….had we kept Allen and LeVert our lineup would have been: Allen Wood Tate LeVert Wall Gordon (6th man) That lineup would contend and be a threat.
With Silas at the helm, still think we could’ve ended up with a good player like Kuminga in the draft.
No god no, i wanted the nets deal 100000%, but I didn’t want any players. I didn’t want allen, levert, victor, none of them. I wanted to be as bad as possible and that was my ONLY priority
Contend for what? Play in game? Unless you are building towards a title contender you should tank, imo
It's not easy trading a $42 million dollar contract during the season and not bringing back players. If our options were A) Thybulle/Simmons (Tilman told Stone don't...... just don't, because of Morey) B) LaVert / Jarrett Allen / Kurucs / Taurean Prince C) B + move LaVert / J Allen / Taurean Prince for Oladipo You don't want to say I'm right......but I believe im right when I say the Rockets should have stopped with LaVert / J Allen /Prince. Patrick Fertitta/Stone (same thing) was rumored to be enamored with Oladipo for years. Oladipo provided a greater chance for more wins than Jarrett Allen did. *and of course LaVert had cancer discovered.
I thought victor was horrible. Did i want him? Hell no. Did i want someone better then him? Even bigger hell no. Whether you want to say the rockets knew what they were doing or just got lucky, at that time the most important thing to me was minimizing wins
Oladipo came back from injury in 19/20 to score 14.5 points per game. Led the Pacers to the playoffs....and scored over 20 points per game in the final 3 games of that 4 game series vs a tough Miami defense. Then came to us last year. There was no way you knew he was damaged goods. You are still Monday morning quarterbacking after the luxury of now knowing how everything turned out. I've never changed on that. Even though LaVert tumor was discovered as part of the physical.
