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Harden - Simmons trade

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HROZ, Oct 30, 2020.

  1. riko

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    I think privately things are different but obviously I can’t be sure.
     
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  2. riko

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    Ibaka is supposed to be considering them to. It’s unfair they have the Russian mobster and we have a broke cheap ass mobster in charge
     
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    I mean, they already have Allen which is a solid piece defensively at center, it's just that Durant (after achilles), Harris, Harden and Irving on defense would be really really bad, straight awful i'd say lol. I agree about the owners though :D
     
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    I'd trade Harden to Philly for that package involving Simmons, but they better give multiple 1st rounders as well
     
  7. elmotsang

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    Nets wants to get harden form big 3
     
  8. Stephen_A

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    wow that’s dumb
     
  9. Stephen_A

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    thats a sorry ass team
     
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  10. Stephen_A

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    since when was ben simmons in the top 10? Lmao
     
  11. Stephen_A

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    kobe wasn’t as great a scorer. Kobe had shaq and a balanced team the later years. We never had a balanced team. The cp3 years were really close but morey and MDA ****ed it up with their stupid belief system.
     
  12. ApacheWarrior

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    You are a fool. You don’t understand Embiid, Horford and Tobias Harris hold back Simmons like Durant/Westbrook
    did to Harden before coming to Houston. In Houston (just) next to Harden; Simmons game would flourish and explode.

    I would venture to say Ben Simmons puts up numbers comparative to Giannis Antetokounmpo. Imagine
    Harden and Antetokounmpo (Ben Simmons) together.
     
  13. Stephen_A

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    says only you and no one else lmao wow
     
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    If the deal isn’t Embiid and lots of picks, I’m not trading Harden to Morey.

    Then give me a good young PG in the Russ deal, and some huge expirings.
     
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  15. ApacheWarrior

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    If you say so boss

    Player.......USG% (19/20)
    Embiid.......32.9%
    Tobias........23.9%
    Horford......17.5%
    Simmons...20.9%

    Player.........USG% (19/20)
    Giannis.........37.5%
    Middleton......26.4%
    Bledsoe.........23.7%

    If Simmons is point guard then this number needs to be higher. If Simmons is PF then the 76ers have too many players earning a high USG% in their front court.

    Embiid 32.9 shows him as more of a point center in the half court......takes away from Simmons touches.

    Bucks probably traded Brogdan to give Giannis more USG%......that’s what Ben needs. Neither shoot 3’s worth a darn; but both Giannis and Ben can be great in this league. The players around them don’t have
    to be good.....just good enough 3-pt shooters to provide space.

    Stats per basketball-reference.com
     
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    Prokhorov sold the Nets to Joseph Tsai. Now the Canadian-Taiwanese-American-Alibaba "mobster" is in charge.
     
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    Embiid doesn't like passing and they play through him
     
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    I literally threw up alittle.
     
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  19. ApacheWarrior

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    Yes, Embiid wants to be the offense going through him. And Tobias Harris complained about his role because of it.




    Notice how they were wrong about McLemore. Rockets Offense made him better as well. Silas Offense
    next to Harden would be great for Simmons.
     
  20. jamisonrocket

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    I couldn't find a gif that captures the lunacy of this part.
     
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