Harden left Brooklyn and stayed in Houston until a deal got made

So @TEXNIFICENT who is knocking Lin for being a bench player on a multi star championship team wont blame Harden for being the 2nd or 3rd option on a star team and does not blame him and is totally understandable....

 

Yup exactly. And the sad thing is, Lin could never be the first option, even if he wanted.
But Harden could be the first option wherever he was, but the problem is, he doesn't want to. He wants an easy ring and to be lead by others. Kind of sad.

Does this seem like something an alpha leader would say?

 

They lost man, mostly to an all- time great Warriors squad. The Rockets were never favored either, no one outside of Houston thought the Rockets were better. LBJ got it done witth Kyrie and KLove healthy but was easily swept when KD arrived.
The Spurs series criticism is legit, as he pouted about shouldering the offensive load and having to guard Aldridge in the post. Harden dropped some stinkers in the playoffs sure, all stars have. But all in all Morey & Crew made HTown relevant and now we’re not. It maybe a while before we’re taken seriously at that level again.

 

Dream34 is a once in a lifetime player my friend & BY FAR THE BEST IN ROCKETS HISTORY. In my book Dream is top 7-8 all time. You can’t compare Harden or your boy Jeremy Lin to Dream man.

And even Dream34 wanted to play with Clyde.

 

Exactly, Harden is supposed to be as good as Durant and Irving.... This is what the Harden nuthuggers argue every day... He is as good as LeBron, Curry, Giannis and pretty much anyone who is better than Harden by miles. But when its time for Harden to do what the greats do, here comes the bs... "Oh I would leave too if Durant is Injured" "Harden can't play with the no talent Rocket's it was totally understandable" "Harden had no choice but to quit with Irving" "Harden is being brought down by the league and the rules" "Harden never has talent around him" " If Harden does not get injured".... They have built a mountain of excuses and bs for Harden and its about crumble....

 

So did Jeremy Lin win it with no talent? Or did he have help?

 

So basically, you are admitting Harden is unable to carry a team to a championship and the only way Harden even finds himself close to one is by being carried by other superstars.

 

No Harden can’t. No one does it alone. Dream, Dirk, and the 2004 Pistons are exceptions to a long history of the NBA rule. They won with a star and role players who were stars in their roles. But Did Jeremy Lin have help when he won his?

 

I know Lin is your exit strategy because he came up on the pairings Harden has failed with but no one is arguing about Lin. This thread is not about Lin... Lin was at best a good role player..... Lin however did get carried into a chip, Harden may and most likely will also get carried into one...

 

Lin isn’t an exit strategy, it was a joke to bring him in to a discussion about NBA star pairings any way. So keep the same energy. He didn’t come up, You brought him up! The last dude I would bring up as a Rockets star player is J Lin. You did it unsolicited. So keep that energy. It’s telling.

Just curious, who’s better? Fat Harden or Prime Lin?

 

I fully believe Harden would still be in Brooklyn had Kyrie had not pulled his BS. I'm pretty sure Harden expected Durant to have some injuries. He never expected Kryie to willingly not play. I'm not defending Harden, but I can see his side.

 

It’s a reasonable take. Harden ain’t winning squat as the Lone Ranger, especially at this stage of his career. At 32 you really need all the help you can get. Kyrie is making a statement but that isn’t helping Brooklyn on the court. KD is really breaking down too.

 

Come on man don't you know they should have traded Harden for 2 2nd rounders and kept JLin? LOL!

 

This is why I value the greats that did not accomplish such feats more than what I value Harden ring hunting. Dream, Dirk, Pistons, Kawhi [sort of] and Giannis did it... Many have failed, because its hard.... Its supposed to be hard but I still respect them more than Harden because he can't even win one with help. Atleast Durant, Curry and Lebron won chips with their super teams... Harden can't even do that...

 

When Harden was paired with Lin they were pretty equal, Morey did not bring in Lin after Harden turned into a super star. Either way whether its Lin or Kevin Durant the results were the same...

 

Huh? Jeremy Lin was never Harden’s equal on a basketball court dude… Sorry. Lin or Durant (who’s hurt) huh, I guess they are equal now too?… Wow man really? SMDH…. You love some you Jeremy Lin man. Again it’s telling.

 

Harden Isn’t promised a ring bro. There’s been lot’s of greats that had to change teams to get one or didn’t get one at all. There’s luck that goes along with it.

 

He is gradually arriving at the point of no return.

Morey would be his savior.

It is Do or Die for both of them.

 

Depend what your plan is. If you are going to total rebuild. Nets offer is better. With Simmons we are going to get stuck around 7-10th seed. After years at 9th seed. I rather go total rebuild.

 

Embiid is going to be Harden's best and last chance to be a 2nd or 3rd option on a championship team. This duo with Harden of 2-3 years ago would actually be scary hours but Embiid was not what he is today and Harden is not what he was yesterday.... Let's see if Harden still has some left in the tank. I want to see it thou, I want to see Embiid and the rest of the team feed Harden at times in the playoffs and Harden actually hitting shots for a title....