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Harden is still a top 5 nba player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Daddy Long Legs, May 11, 2017.

  1. HadToDoItCF

    HadToDoItCF Member

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    No, I just happened to actually play the game in to my 20's and can use my eyes to see what defense looks like.

    Do me a favor... find me ONE PERSON who played or coached the game (that isn't Morley the should-be-fired-apologist) that says Harden plays average defense.

    Just. One. Person.
     
  2. Mr. Space City

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    the ****?

    blowing a 28-3 3rd quarter lead in the super bowl is a massive failure.

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  3. HadToDoItCF

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    Yup, went right past me and in to the bin where your delusion about Jordan and Harden being mentioned in the same sentence makes any sense is stored.
     
  4. wekko368

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    Do you think Pippen would've become one of the best forwards of all time without Jordan's influence?

    Harden's defense was so terrible that we were forced to surround him with plus defenders (Beverley, Ariza, Josh Smith, Howard). If you want to blame someone for Harden's offensively deficient teammates, blame Harden.
     
  5. mfastx

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    He's probably top 5/6, but games like this are why he isn't top 3/4.
     
  6. oelman44

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    CRAP man, why can't HadToDoItCF run our franchise? The dude played in his freaking 20's for god sakes, he has some of the best eyes I've ever seen. Dude flat out KNOWS basketball.
     
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  7. JayGoogle

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    I guess you think Harden is better than Jordan then.

    Because Jordan had SOOOOO much success without Pippen.
     
  8. JayGoogle

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    It works both ways, but great players need to play with great players. If they don't, they just become Iverson and Barkley.
     
  9. HadToDoItCF

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    LOL. Keep it flowing bro, I love the fact that you keep putting a bottom-dweller on defense in the same sentence as a man who competed on every possession.
     
  10. HadToDoItCF

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    So you can't find a SINGLE PERSON to say that James Harden plays average defense?

    Not one?

    And I'm a mouthpiece.... lol.
     
  11. wekko368

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    That's because he's hidden on the opponent's worst wing. Against the Spurs, we didn't have anywhere to hide Harden, and he kept losing track of Danny Green.
     
  12. JayGoogle

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    So, making the superbowl is a HUGE failure then.
     
  13. liveguy

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    Dude didn't take a shot from the field until halfway through the 2nd quarter.

    He went 18 minutes without taking a shot.

    No one else finds that suspect?

    Really?
     
  14. JayGoogle

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    Not even my argument, keep attacking that strawman bro.
     
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  16. JayGoogle

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    That's unrealistic.

    Only one team will win the championship, if you don't win that doesn't mean blow it all up or that nothing good could have come from the season.
     
  17. Tomstro

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    Top 5 in the meaningless regular season? Sure i guess but who gives a rats ash. I mean really who cares? Why would the OP even bring up such a stupid thing? He is a complete bum in the playoffs. He is total crap whennits winning time.
     
  18. HadToDoItCF

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    What straw man? I didn't set up any argument for you. Learn2logic bro. I am fascinated that you keep putting them in the same sentence.

    Don't use 10 dollar words with your 3 cent logic.
     
  19. oelman44

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    Harden played pretty solid defense in the post all series, no one's arguing he's All-NBA defense. Besides, defense was far from the issue. You guys act like you predicted this **** coming because you've always known he doesn't play defense, yet that was not at all what decided this game. If his defense is so bad, why did we win 55 games this year and beat the supposed MVP 4-1 in the first round? Where were you after we blew out the Spurs in game 2?
     
  20. wekko368

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    Jordan was already a great player before Pippen arrived.

    The only way we can improve as a team is if Harden fixes the huge weaknesses in his game. IMO, he was better in 2015. That means that he hasn't improved in 2 years. Sure, he had great numbers this year, but that was due to increased usage and the additions of Gordon/Anderson.
     
  21. HadToDoItCF

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    So I'm looking for one person who said that he played "average" defense... let alone solid.

    Just one person.
     

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