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Harden and Paul should not have flopped in the second half

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by snowconeman22, Apr 29, 2019.

  1. J Sizzle

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    This, unfortunately, is probably true. It doesn't matter because the officiating was going to be in the Warriors favor regardless, but now it's all but locked up.
     
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    This is what I'm most pissed about IMO .

    I thought we had a real chance to expose some of the injustice . The commentators were on our side , the world seemed like it was noticing .... then we flop a bit and it can all be what-abouted away
     
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    This post is full of gimmicks..
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    I mean, we still do have the announcers calling it out. It's still the main talking point on every show this morning. I just don't think it matters. The Rockets got screwed last year and nothing has changed. Why would it change now?
     
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    according to NBA.com, Harden is 18-40 so far on stepback threes in the playoffs, that’s 45%...
     
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    I don't think MDA is going to convince Harden to alter his shot selection. Harden by now is a creature of habit. He needs an entire rigorous off-season to change his play style to be less depedant on difficult contested threes and whistles.
     
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    He's leading the league in And 1's. He's trying to make the shot. I also think it's unfair that the refs were allowing flagrant fouls in the first half; admitted to Harden they "missed" those flagrant fouls and now Harden and Paul are being called out for embellishing fouls in the second half trying to draw the refs attention to it. No **** they did that in the second half. The refs had proven to be blind in the first half. It's crazy.
     
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    Harden should’ve faked an ankle injury on those closeouts and sold it to force the refs to have to make the call.
     
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    Watching various media people on TV, internet, and Radio, most are definitely twisting it on us. Like how they suppose to defend Harden with him jumping 4ft forward, or how it's tough because he is always falling, fishing for calls, and how he got a lot of foul calls this game etc... It feels like they aren't even talking about the Klay undercuts anymore, which was blatant and dirty as could be. Imagine if it was Lebron or Giannis getting undercut like that. The tone would be widely different right now. It also feels like some are even mocking him with his "call the game fair" comments after the game.
     
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    This was at MDA's tutledge then

    He took plenty of midrange for mchale and played off-ball plenty in OKC .
     
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    I get frustrated when people keep saying they flopped or have their legs kick out. Think about the physics of the shot.

    1. You jump up to shoot and are coming down.
    2. On a few of those fouls they are hit in the hands or the thigh/hip.
    3. That changes your center of mass and makes you off balance.
    4. The only natural way to fall after getting hit in the thigh/hip or hand is to fall backward. Otherwise, you will fall crumple style or with your weight on your arms instead of your butt.

    I will say this. The Warriors scouted the Rockets and knew they they fall down on a lot of shoots. The contesting player is constantly sprinting down court with a quick outlet pass to get transition points. It work multiple times in the second half and the Rockets couldn't respond to get back with transition defense.
     
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    As pathetic as yesterday's officiating was, it was not the worst... game 7 WCF officiating was the worst.
     
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    The only shot that he intended for the refs or trying to bait the refs for ft attempt was the last shot when he was being defended by green. All of his 3 points attempts were legitimately going up for shots and getting fouled and not getting a space to land his feet.

    Stop with your nonsense bullshit on every thread in the GARM and calling out James. the reason why harden has been inefficient most of the playoffs because he is getting hammered every single night and not getting calls, even the Utah series, everytime he was attacking the basket Gobert was fouling the **** out of him and he wasn't getting any calls.
     
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    When highlighting the landing spot people seem to ignore that some of those noncalls actually had GS defenders also touching the shooting hand of Rockets players... there were multiple fouls on several plays.
     
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    That’s ridiculous percentage on very difficult shot on very good defenses, no wonder the Warriors foul and Jazz gimmick. If that’s the case, try PnR and let Harden step back or just continue the 1v1.
     
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    It's not a real stat Fake news.

    Harden is shooting 30% this playoffs on contested threes according to NBA.com
     
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    Flopping is making up contact op. Showing a clear foul is not flopping
     
  18. Reeko

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    lmao, not every contested three he’s taken has been a step back...100% of Harden’s threes aren’t step backs, so thanks for useless info
     
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    Um the vast majority of his contested threes are step backs.
     
  20. Reeko

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    um, NBA.com has classified 40 of his 3 point attempts as step backs, and has recorded him hitting 18 of those...

    James Harden is one of the deadliest offensive players in the history of the NBA. There is no way to stop him. Slowing him down is possible, but no team will ever neutralize all aspects of his attack. Despite being lackluster in the paint, Harden caused havoc from the perimeter. His clip was average, but Utah still struggled to defend him in specific scenarios. For instance, Harden went 21-of-55 on straight-away threes. Also, interestingly enough, he was more accurate than before on step backs. In the regular season, Harden converted step back threes at a rate of 38.9 percent. Against Utah, it rose to 40.6 percent. They also didn’t have a tremendous impact on the frequency of those shots. Step back threes accounted for 27.8 percent of Harden’s field goal attempts in the first round. That’s down from 28.3 percent.

    try again, and next time without your useless info...

    Harden has been excellent with his stepback three in the playoffs so far
     
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