Because that's what the OP did. OP claimed Harden is currently outperforming the best Jordan, and others, ever did. That was the topic.
The OP said: "The data shows that Harden is currently having one of the greatest seasons of all-time in terms of offensive efficiency." That's not a claim that Harden is outperforming Jordan. That claim you keep mentioning is merely your straw man so you can huff and puff about how right you are and how wrong everyone else is. He also said: "Seems like a strong case for GOAT to me." Again, not saying that Harden is clearly the best ever, just saying that he belongs in the conversation. Yet you repeatedly drop your pants in an attempt to crap all over this thread. Hell, even the thread title has a question mark in it. Why are you so hell-bent on proving OP wrong about something that's never actually stated? What is wrong with you?
I mean your splitting hairs and I do think Harden is the better scorer and outside shooter but Lebron is a little more efficient and he takes care of the basketball better but harden is righ there. Harden is the better ball handler and shooter so that works in his favor. It’s really close I guess I’m more inclined to say Lebron because of his body of work sustained dominance and winning chips although those 3 things have nothing to do with what we’re taking about lol
Do you think anyone is buying this? Seriously? OP poses the question in the title, makes his case, then asserts that it's a strong case, not unlike a 5-paragraph essay that you might have learned about had you passed high school english. I respond in the very first post that his own data disproves his position. All that came after was personal attacks on me, including yours. Can you contribute nothing other than personal attacks? If not, take your garbage elsewhere.
OP makes the case that Harden's season belongs in the discussion for greatest offensive season of all time. Which it certainly does, especially considering it hasn't yet been completed. Nowhere does he say Harden is definitely having the greatest offensive season ever. You pulled that one out of your nether-regions. Also, just wondering: By any chance, does the "J" in your moniker stand for "Jopatmc"? Because your debate style sure sounds familiar.
The OP's claim has already been discredited and all but a few have moved on. You, OTOH, continue to throw your petty tantrums. What a sad person you are.
I already did - as has just about everyone in the thread. I guess you didn't do high school english? Or, if you did, I strongly recommend brushing up on the comprehension section.
Recycling my retorts? Is that what they teach you in "Dr" school? Surely a person of your intellect can do better. It seems to me I "comprehended" your passive-aggressive comments on PPFGA just fine as well as your "interesting" observations that said nothing. Of course, the PPFGA point was addressed in my very first comment had you known if your reading "comprehension" wasn't itself challenged. You should go back into hiding, you're out of your league.
'out of my league'! lol. You might think you addressed it, but you really didn't. Your 'amazing' first comment was basically 'it might be the highest number EVER, but it's been done before'. And then you followed it up with 'learn to read stats, it isn't the biggest number'. It's clearly both the biggest number and never been done before. Granted, you don't like it as a measure, but I'm not sure anyone really cares what you think? We're just trolling your stupidity and backing you further into your corner. I eagerly anticipate your next biting retort; calling me passive aggressive really stung, and was clearly a very true comment that has me crying into my keyboard right now. How shall I ever recover?
If the Rockets win 4 of the next 5 games he will be. The main point I read in a article to have Harden ranked 3rd in MVP was because the Rockets are 7th in the Western Conference. The 2nd ranked player was Anthony Davis...
He's said it to me before in the past when he was wrong and wouldn't admit it. It's his common retort across accounts - and then he puts you on ignore and keeps spewing forth the same trash to others.
Paraphrasing like that coming from someone who tells others to learn "comprehension". You are pathetic. Thank you, however, for calling my first post 'amazing'. That's certainly not anything I said. Regarding me "not liking the number", literally no one anywhere would accept PPFGA as the measure of "greatest offensive season of all time", not even the OP. Otherwise he wouldn't extrapolate that to a bogus, easily discredited PPG number. It has nothing to do with what I like. I also didn't say it was not "the biggest number", that's just your straw man. I said it was not unprecedented as Jordan 89 is essentially the same. It is currently greater than Jordan 89 by a whopping 1.36% but it's not a whole season or even a half of one. Furthermore, Jordan 89 has a higher PPG. The difference between current Harden and Jordan 89 is within the margin of error and neither is even top 20, hardly the ass-kicking you think you're dishing out. It's also "interesting" that you're finally getting around to asserting this weak argument after failing to earlier. We both know why that is, "doctor". By further copying my language, apparently. Do you ever think for yourself?
He doesn't extrapolate it out to make his point. He cites a theoretical example of his ppfga stat. But the post is relying on the stat and the offensive efficiency. It really is on you to prove your comment that Harden does not have the highest PPFGA in history. If you can't see that you can't prove that, then I'm not surprised you think people are piling on you - we're not. We're just having some fun riling you up because you're doubling and tripling down on an absurd comment - that essentially Harden doesn't have the highest PPFGA in history this season (he does.) I'll go on record as saying that I don't think Harden's season will last all year. And his ppg will drop when somebody else steps up. But to say he isn't currently in first place when it comes to PPFGA is crazy. Who cares whether anyone considers that a worthy stat? That's the basis of the OPs question. Why don't you cite arguments as to why it isn't a good stat rather than saying 'Harden isn't the highest'. You may not realise that you come across as a tad facile? No. More than a tad.
PPFGA is clearly a valid metric in determining offensive efficiency. It could absolutely be a component of any serious analysis of the GOAT offensive season. The PPG extrapolation isn't bogus or easily discredited just because you typed those words in your browser. It was intended to normalize stats from different players to provide context. If Harden took 39.5 shots a game (which he could easily do) and maintained his efficiency levels (which is less certain) how would he compare to Wilt or Jordan's higher PPG years? Lots of people liked and enjoyed reading the original post and seeing the comparisons - which was my purpose in posting it. You and your various burner accounts are the only person getting all bent out of shape. You just vomit your opinions as if they were universally accepted facts without ever providing any actual analysis or proof (which reminds me of someone famous...give me a minute I'll remember who...). Why not stop insulting people for a minute and actually have a friendly conversation about the data?
He extrapolates PPG by assuming PPFGA remains constant with increased usage. This is the error I pointed out in my first comment and the only reason I posted. He only cited a PPFGA stat, not a "theoretical example of his ppfga stat", and PPFGA is what he used for efficiency, they are not separate. Your bluff may work on the knuckle-draggers but not on me. It is not, and this is classic shifting of burden. It is up to the OP to make his case, not me. Furthermore, literally no one asserts that he has the highest PPFGA in history so there is no argument to refute. If Harden finishes the season with the highest in history, that will be fantastic, but that will not prove that he's had the greatest offensive season of all time. Furthermore, the highest PPFGA in history is meaningless without minimum usage, so you'd have to tailor your measure to Harden's achievement. That's why it's not the metric. You give yourself way too much credit. I'm getting flamed by the Droogies, including you, for saying something you don't like, and once again you construct a straw man to make your point. I have made no such "absurd comment" nor would it be absurd if I had made it. The OP didn't pose a question, he submitted a challenge to argue against his claim. The OP furthermore didn't argue that Harden's PPFGA was an all time great, he argued that Harden was having the best offensive season ever. Again another straw man. I haven't said 'Harden isn't the highest', I'm more literate than that. The burden of proof is not on me to "cite arguments" especially when that isn't even the OP's claim. PPFGA is perfectly good stat, just not what is being asserted in the title of the thread.
This thread started out quite interesting, then quickly got derailed by The Man Who Has Never Been Wrong. But at least I got a new sig out of it.
