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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Oct 1, 2013.

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  1. tallanvor

    tallanvor Contributing Member

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    It wouldn't be an alternative as Obamacare does not lower the price of healthcare. To answer your question though deregulation would reduce costs.
     
  2. FishBulb913

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    While true, would deregulation make major medical procedures affordable with out health insurance? Reducing costs is great, but going from 40k to 30k for a surgery doesn't help me.
     
  3. Major

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    It's not even true, if you just look at medical systems around the world. Some of the most regulated are also the cheapest. Many countries just dictate drug prices entirely and the pharma companies are fine with it and just sell at those rates. Deregulation hasn't worked like the GOP mantra in any number of industries from the airlines to cable companies to phone companies to energy companies. There's no reason to think it would work like they predict here either, especially given the extensive evidence worldwide.
     
  4. mtbrays

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    Frustrating, isn't it? Any news source that he doesn't already read is a liberal blog and, therefore, not to be considered. The bubble is impenetrable, Major. Do not try to break into the BioDome.
     
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    Like Romney, he just doesn't care. Don't have the $40k? you are just a moocher, taker and a parasite.

    Hey let's pretend it would just cost $4,000 or maybe $400.00 and that would be nothing as we would all be so wealthy when we have the imagined for stateless "libertarian" society of Haymitch.
     
  6. tallanvor

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    Just so lazy. Again you attack the messenger by creating flase assumptions. How pathetic is it that your argument is I hate the poor and don't care if they die. Why even come to a discussion board?

    Here is what I wrote just a page back

     
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    Deregulation of what? The word deregulation doesn't just magically solve everything. Proposals require some depth and specificity to them. And if its not an alternative to the ACA, then what is the Republican alternative?
     
  8. tallanvor

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    FDA full or partial. Also requirements to become a doctor (Medical licensing). I thought that was obvious.

    Organ transplant deregulation would be nice too, though that is very specific.
     
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    Holy ****, you'd really be fine with poorly-trained "doctors" operating and transplanting organs in this country?
     
  11. tallanvor

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    poorly-trained is relative. Why are you not out on the streets demanding that ever doctor be forced to spend 20 years in med school? Are you okay with poorly-trained doctors?



    See how that works?
     
  12. mtbrays

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    Tell that to the person with the scalpel in their skin.

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  13. tallanvor

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    FIFY.
     
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    FIFY and thanks for thinking of me.

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  15. mtbrays

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    You've tried the best, now try the rest, huh?
     
  16. CometsWin

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    The problem with health care today, too much doctor training. LMAO
     
  17. tallanvor

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    FIFY.

    Don't understand what you are asking. If someone had tried the best doctor then they have alrdy paid out the ass. The goal is to reduce healthcare costs.
     
  18. CometsWin

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    Slogans, memes, cool pictures. The conservative toolbox.
     
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    You forgot no coherent message
     
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    You guys focus too much on the individual exchange rates which won't impact 85% of Americans.

    People on employer plans are going to have a problem.

    Scenario 1: You may 30k a year and your employer pays 100% of your employee coverage, but 0% of dependent. You cannot get a subsidy to help pay the cost of your coverage for your dependents.

    Scenario 2: You have a family of 3 and are used to pay an employee "child" rate or full family rate. Once the new rating systems are installed, you will have to pay a per person rate for each dependent.

    So a 30 year with 3 kids that gets employee+children coverage through her employer that is used to paying say $100 for her coverage and then an extra $400 for her kids in total will now see something like $100 for her and $245 for each child, raising her rate significantly.

    Scenario 2 is for companies that are not going to keep composite rating, such as Blue Cross Blue Shield.
     

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