the problem really starts with harden and tillman was spoiling him too. Harden is a diva. likes to finger point, complain, cocky and impatient. He is similar to Kyrie, KD, Butler, Pippen and others. You won't hear Shroeder in OKC, Booker in Suns, Blake in Clippers complain if CP3 is playing well or not. You'll just have to understand your teammates even in their shortcomings because they all have it and they should still make an effort.
Terrible trade, but I don’t think anyone could’ve seen that Chris Paul’s veganism was going to be like Roger Clemens’ steroids.
Lol, conflating the posts - I hated that contract, thought it too much. But, hated the trade for Westbrook. I believed paying Paul 40m would hurt us in finding other pieces, and it did. DD
Will grant you that, but you knew his mind was going to be strong, players like him, Nash, Stockton, contribute well into their late 30s, early 40s, just not at 40m a year,imho. The culture we created around that quitter Harden is as much of the issue as Harden wanting Westbrookover CP3 because he couldn’t stand someone holding his laziness accountable. DD
u said Chris Paul was wasting Harden’s prime…u said aging CP3 and his contract was what was hurting us the most…u said “garbage in, garbage out” when the trade was made so just stop it with all the backtracking now
All of that is true, his contract was my beef. 40m meant we couldn’t get additional pieces we needed. Once we paid him 40m it hurt us as a team. There is meaning and context missing - but I said what I said, have fun. But Paul is/was a better player than Westbrook. And Harden quit after forcing a better player for his butt buddy Westbrook. and now we are tanking, wooohooo. DD
so Chris Paul and his contract were the biggest problem and the biggest thing hurting us when he was here…garbage in CP3 out, and garbage in Westbrook in when the trade was made, and then u dare try to sit here and backtrack like a hypocrite…too funny
When the Rockets initially traded for Chris Paul, it was understood at the time that the window was the first couple years and after that it could be painful. The contract he was given was "bad", but that was the deal when we initially got him. That doesn't make the trade for Westbrook justifiable. Trading away a bad contract for a contract that isn't all that much better, plus giving away draft assets, was just not a good move. I doubt it was Morey's idea. He was forced to make a move by his star player and the owner.
There’s only a handful of posters on cf’s that have kept the same energy about Cp3 from day 1. OP isn’t one of them there’s also plenty of folks in here who continue to look silly also. Cp3 nba finals mvp and Champion will just be icing on the cake. Go get it Phx
Meh. CP3 couldn’t stay healthy with us. I’m rooting for the Hawks so we can bury this CP3 narrative. If we hadn’t traded him we still would have under performed since Tilman wasn’t going to pay for a contender and we’d b****ing about that….
In hindsight, the mistake was trading for CP3 in the first place. Too many people have forgotten how anxious we were about that CP3 contract.
People won't listen to chris paul in his own words of what went on with the rockets, hint it wasnt harden, but the owner an tax savings for not paying up for a veteran glue guy whose value is beyond his stats, rememebr ayton says chris paul is teh best thing to happend to his career bc of the way he pushes him and his voice, veterans, culture all those things come into play for rings " Former Houston Rockets guard Chris Paul was on the Knuckleheads podcast with Darius Miles and Quentin Richardson and explained the impact of the Rockets losing Ariza. “People don’t realize, that’s the biggest thing that we missed. That was tough when we lost [Ariza] because he sorta was like the glue. He was that glue for our team.” "
CP3 was out of shape and injury prone, the trade was the wake up call he needed. He's definitely better now, but Harden was right he wasn't good enough a sidekick at the time to help us get over the hump. The trade was awful but I wonder if things would have been different if Westbrook doesn't get injured and continues on his Shaq-esque tear.
