1. I don't know what being gay is, I assume that most are born that way but I have a hard time believing that NOBODY EVER chose to be gay. 2. My friend confirms this. He says that some guys don't embrace the sexual aspect of the thing, they just like the "lifestyle". I've known more than one guy that claimed to be gay then married and carried on a hetro relationship, how are they catagorized? 3. You confirm my second point. 4. I've been a church musician for most of my life, I don't know if that trumps an opera singer (which is very impressive, i might add), but I have had more gay friends to pass than most people will ever have. Don't misinterpret my tone, I don't pretend to understand the "lifestyle" or whatever, I just wanted to get different views in hopes of learning more about what is a huge part of Americana. Great post, Nolan
Well, I think this thread is far enough off topic now to ask this question... Why do chicks get a cool word "lesbian" to describe their homosexuality, while guys get nothing but derogatory words like "***", "queer", "pole smoker", "fudge packer", etc...?
Lesbian......carpet muncher...........lawn mower........rug licker.......these are not cool.....but funny
Okay, I should back off my statement a little bit. I'm sure that out there in the whole wide world, it has happened that a dude could choose to be gay. But in our society... past college age, that's really, really rare. Think about it- in the whole world, across all societies, all religious beliefs, there is almost no single group that is so universally reviled and discriminated against as homosexual men. Did you know that in most cities and states in the USA, one of the more socially open countries in the world, it is perfectly legal to deny a gay person housing and employment? Think about that- you could be denied your most basic freedoms of shelter and the ability to work for your money- because you're gay. And it would be legal. Imagine if there were laws in the books for that for blacks. Almost every gay kid out there grew up in morbid fear of being "found out" by friends and family. Many had to go through an enormous rift with their families- many are just flat out disowned. Most gay people tried to find every way they can to not be gay, to try and "fix" themselves. But they can't, because they are what they are. All this risk, self-torture, hatred, persecution, and people actually think that gays choose this? Maybe, in a gay friendly environment like San Fran or a liberal college campus or something like that. Maybe. I've occasionally heard about a straight guy hooking up with a gay dude to see what it's like. But still, they move on when they see it's not their thing. (the gayboy would be pretty pissed about it too, heh.) As for your friend who claimed to be gay and then got married, the first thing that comes to mind is closet. There are plenty of gay dudes who try and force themselves to be "normal" and get married, even have kids. I've known some, and I feel horribly sorry for them. On the other hand, there is a lot of middle ground, that being bisexual. Maybe your friend is bi, dated some guys at first, then found a girl he wanted to marry. Half the girls I've dated have dated other girls, or at least hooked up with one. Not that unusual. Okay, I've carried on enough. I hope your friends work it out.
You mean Tim? You know Tim? Awesome! No, I'm not him. I've worked with him a couple of times, though. Hilarious guy. We two are the only ones we know in the world who spell our last names with an "e".
can't say i really knew him, but i met him back in the day. i more or less stopped singing about five years ago, although i still study regularly. I was what the germans call a "serious bass"- did stuff like sarastro, ramfis, sparafucile, etc, and did a little wagner towards the end. do you live in new york?
Dang no edit. You're preaching to the choir Nolan, the difference is that I can't be a "closet black". I can't hide my color from those that may discriminate against me, until I am in a position of power.
