Hanging out with gays

Dude, excellent point.

 

Well, yes AB would get offended. But I don't think the rest of us should be so PC about this.

Personally, I think there is a difference between "acting gay" and a gay person acting like themselves. When someone is "acting gay" I see them going way over the top and acting like that dude on Will & Grace. And yeah, I probably would be uncomfortable with it. It would be annoying. Whenever a person "acts" a certain way, whether they are gay, frat boys, wannabe rappers, or whatever, it can be annoying.

 

If they are friends it doesn't matter what they do in their bedroom.

I could care less if someone acts gay.

DD

 

well, i'm about the least PC guy I know- i can't even bring myself to use the term "african-american", but i still think the idea that you can't be friend w/ someone who is gay, or acts gay, to be absurd, and i can't believe someone would even need to bring it up in this day and age.

 

Well, I'll tell the gay guys to stop hitting on you if you tell the straight ones to stop hitting on me.

Seriously, though. I don't understand why so many guys get upset if a gay guy were to hit on them. If someone hits on me, wether they be a guy or a girl, I take it as a compliment. As long as they aren't being scummy about it, don't act like they own me, and stop when asked, why is a problem?

 

Bush's daughter doesn't mind hanging out with gays...
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Bush's Drinking Daughter Goes 'Pansy'

You know, some research says that those who are the most homophobic are the most likely to actually BE homosexuals. So what does that say about President George Bush? Well, we don't know if the Prez might hiding out with the queers in secret, but we do know his daughter isn't shy about hanging out with them in public. Bush's daughter Barbara was spotted recently having a gay old time at a concert by all-gay punk band Pansy Division. Barbara and friends cozied up in the back room drinking, while out front the band screamed their queer hearts out. The band reportedly dedicated their rabid anti-Bush song, Political *******, to the first daughter during the show. Daddy's just got to love that.

http://www.365gay.com/entertainment/news&gossip/MediaBlender.htm

 

not sure i follow you here...?

 

yeah, but i don't see the relevance to the thread. am i to infer it's ok to discrimintate against homosexuals because they may not be gay by "choice?"

 

Ditto. I find I'm usually more interested in hanging out with people who are innately different from me anyway. Ever since I was a kid, I always preferred to have friends that were Latino, black, Asian, gay/lesbian, whatever rather than just straight, white men. It is just more interesting for me.

 

I would often rather hang out with gay men than straight. As far as women go I don't care either way.

 

Good point...made me think. I guess I can only try to explain where I am coming from (it was more of a joke, but there is some truth to how I feel about that and why I said that).

If a woman indicates her interest to me, I feel it is flattering. However, it is much less so when the woman is highly unattractive. I am saying that the "being flattered" part depends also on how attracted I am to that person - perhaps this is based on some kind of ego boost one gets when an attractive person seems interested based on an assumption that similarly attractive people often match - like "wow, if that attractive person is interested in me, I must be attractive". At the same time, if a very unattractive person indicates her interest, one could interpret it as that person thinking one is "on the same attractiveness level" as she is, which might NOT be flattering at all. Now, I am absolutely not attracted to other men. Therefore, if another man hits on me, it is confusing, as one does not even see these people as potential mates, but rather as rivals for the prey (chicks). It kind of screws up the "rate yourself by how attractive the person that hits on you is" scheme.

To add another point, I guess if someone hits on someone, it implies that there is an assumption by the proponent that there is at least some chance that the target is also interested. In the case of another guy hitting on me, that would mean that they think there is a chance you might also be attracted to them - a chance that you might be gay. Now - even for those like me who want to think that there is nothing wrong with being gay - there is still a difference between just thinking that and suddenly being faced with the situation that other people might think of YOU as being gay. If I say "guys can kiss each other, who cares" that still does not mean that I want people to think I would do it myself. However, that is implied when a guy hits on me.

Therefore, I do not wish to be in that situation.

Finally, there is one more aspect to this. There are certain mannerisms connected to some people of the gay community, and I think even gay people would not deny this, which are somewhat typical - the way they move their hands sometimes, the way they talk etc...all these "feminine" things - not saying all gay people are like that, but I have seen enough people like that, and of course you know the clichés from comedy movies, and they are not entirely inaccurate. I would say that these mannerisms are not typically attributes that would let a man appear more attractive to a potential female straight mate. However, if someone hits on you, again, this might imply that they think you show these mannerisms, which, in turn, implies that you might not be attractive to females, which is something most straight men would not like to hear or think of themselves.

One more reason not to want gay men to hit on you as a straight man.

(I'm kind of tired, so this might have sounded a bit complicated and perhaps you think that is a weird explanation. Perhaps some psychologists could make some sense out of what I just wrote and analyze if I have some issues! )

All that being said - you might wonder if that has actually happened to me, and yes, it has, as one female acquaintance of mine had predicted to me saying "you have a cute face so some gay guys will probably hit on you"...it happened only a few times, fortunately, once on a plane where a male flight attendant offered me to sit in business/first class (on Continental) and then started obviously coming on to me, making me compliments, asking me what my plans for the evening were etc. I felt very uncomfortable as I was confused by this situation, rather instinctively, but perhaps somewhat explained by the reasons I tried to detail above. I did not want to be rude to the guy as he had just moved me up to a much better seat on the plane without me even asking, so smacking him and telling him to leave me the hell alone was out of the question. So I pondered if I should go back to my original seat or what I should do. Finally, I pulled these things over my eyes and pretended to be sleeeping for the rest of the flight.

(Fortunately, the same thing happened to me again with a female flight attendant on the same airline a year later, so that made up for the confusion I had to endure a year before ).

 

Damn, I just saw how long my post is, makes me feel like MacBeth or something .

Well, at least my post might make at least SOME sense!

 

So you acknowledge that being insensitive and discriminating - as defined by you "hating because they are not like me" - are two different things and you agree to hold the same standard to the next thread where an accusation of potential racism is discussed?

 

sorry, but i don't think you can consider this title the same as hanging out with blacks. if anything it is similar to something like hanging out with women.