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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. Invisible Fan

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    The younger generations were more open to change and dialogue until the subsequent events of Oct 7 and the siege radicalized recruits for decades to come.

    That recent decision by their Supreme Court likely meant Bibi's legitimate hold on power was gone, though these attacks have extended his political life into an unforseeable future. Iran via Hezbollah needed a shocking event like this to wrestle back Muslim opinion that Israel is the more dangerous and repelling neighbor in a region that was more than willing to move on from slights half century plus ago.

    If it is lazy, then it is because it works. Both of their extremist wings reached a consensus on their worldview, kill or be killed, and used that mutual loathing to paint a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    You've mentioned apartheid state. S. Africa had a similar circumstance to make, which was continue to hold power through apartheid until the last dying breath or accept the circumstances. When I watched the interviews of settlers living on the West Bank, one of their mayors had the viewpoint that it wasn't solely a matter of zealotry but rather numbers. They were outnumbered, he said, and settling in those regions would add more Israelis.

    Europe is having a population crisis buttressed by immigration. The notion that something like that could happen to Israel likely drives Bibi and his right wing to do more of the diplomatically shocking things despite local opposition and unpopularity.

    Which is rightfully unsettling as this war is the outcome they dreamed of, which then makes the timing "for acceptance or for change" incredibly difficult to open.

    It's going to take a lot of death or coordinated global intervention (unlikely) to force either side to understand reason when their publics have adopted the war time by-any-means-necessary mob-like fervor.

    Oversharing Nook. But I get that Vegas Rules also don't apply at Gaza Strip.
     
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  3. lionaire

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    They've already said they didn't intend to hurt civilians. izrael always gets away with using that one so we can give hamas a pass right?

    Now, I ask you: do you think there's anything izrael could have done differently on Oct 7? o_Oo_O
     
  4. lionaire

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    So now that we know Dershowitz is a pedophile (as if we didn't already), will he still be representing the occupiers in the ICJ case?
     
  5. basso

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    they should all hang.
     
  6. tinman

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    What’s up with these ai generated usernames popping up on this thread ?
    @AroundTheWorld
    They all are non contributing members
    Like Hamas
     
  7. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    When they were cutting a guy's head off with a hoe, who were they trying to hurt?
     
  8. tinman

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    Bro who are these non contributing members popping up

    this has to be somebody’s burner account
     
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    “Fake news” about this conflict is rampant on social media. I’ll again encourage people who care about truth to stick with trusted journalistic sources.

     
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    hmmm I wonder why :rolleyes:
     
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    Oh no, someone is making me gouge out a man's eye and rape his wife in front of his kids! Oh no, someone is making me kill these kids! I didn't intend to do this!!
     
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    Hamas said they only use hoes with the utmost precision and any damage to civilians was unintentional
     
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    A lot of the blind support Israel especially the Netanyahu government isn’t improving long term security for Israel either.

    The policy of collective punishment, building settlements and funding Hamas to prevent a viable Palestinian state didn’t prevent multiple intifadas of Oct 7.
     
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    Because they are dead.
     
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    Ya you can be evil just by killing civilians like the IDF. You don't have to fabricate fake rape and beheaded baby stories. The Israeli govt trying to create these fake narratives is at the end of the day projection in the sense that they know if the dividing line between being evil and being just is merely the act of killing civilians, then they need to make sure to create a narrative that separates them from the other side because internally they know they kill civilians indiscriminately also.

    What Hamas did by attacking civilian populations was evil. The Israeli government understands that can't be the only thing hamas did to be considered evil or else both sides are "evil" because they understand they do the same thing but at a grander scale.
     
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    Yeah totally

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    The rapes happened.
     
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    Didn't they film themselves doing it?
     
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    Twitter added a note that this translation was fake and she didn't say this. Imagine how vile and scumish you have to be to mock a rape victim.

    The pro hamas people are such awful humans
     
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    only if you think Mexican drug cartel members are Arab Muslims.

    A lot of the rhetoric is based on hopes and lack of intellectual curiosity that most people will not click on links where the person passing on the link claims that the link possess severe actions of rape and murder. Most people will not click a link and watch it in its entirety if the person who passes on the link says it's content as extreme as " pregnant woman being raped". It's a rather vile tactic in how to spread disinformation... preying on the average human's humanity and empathy to be adverse to watching snuff content.
     
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