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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. fchowd0311

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    Again for the past 20 years a lot more Palestinian civilians have died than Israeli ones.
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    I don't think 5 minute warnings does anything relevant.


    If I'm going to be callous as you in making accusations I'm just going to chalk you up on the "pro explode babies" camp.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    I don't care about whose talking points they are - I care that they are beheading babies, they took out people at a music festival and they cowardly use civilians as human shields.

    That is no way to get your own state, they set this whole thing back by DECADES with this attack. I am all for them to have their own state, but not like this, you can't reward terrorism.....what is happening now because of this is they are giving Israel a chance to go in and retaliate in a horredous way, and the world will be ok with it.....so Hamas basically just cause the death of many more Palestinians.

    I can't stand religion, it has ****ed up and killed so many people and Islam is one of the worst religions out there, with it's mixed political messaging, it's changing direction as Mohammed gained in political power, and basically it's inability to moderate itself....most religions suck, but right now, Islam is probably the worst of them all.

    Why won't any Arab state let them in? Could it be because every time someone has they immediately try to overthrow the government? Like they did the King of Jordan the last time he accepted a bunch into his country?

    DD
     
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  4. ROXRAN

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    Death to Hamas ! You with me bro?
     
  5. basso

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  6. fchowd0311

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    Sure?

    Your blood lust isn't justified bro. You are watching this through YouTube. You haven't earned the right to be lustful for blood. You aren't a victim of PTSD from living through this conflict.

    I want civilian deaths to stop now. That's really all I care about.
     
  7. ROXRAN

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    I'm proud of you and many liberals that share this viewpoint that you have... we only have less than four antisemites on here that are advocating for Hamas - this is progress
     
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  8. DaDakota

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    You haven't earned the right to tell anyone anything, yet you don't shut up.

    DD
     
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  9. Kevooooo

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    Your ignorance is astounding. You’re off by a substantial margin of about 1,435 minutes.

    tell me this: does Hamas make ANY attempts to avoid civilian deaths? Any? Whatsoever? Do they even try and avoid deaths for Palestinians? The answer is no. Keep defending savages.
     
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    Your ignorance is astounding. You’re off by a substantial margin of about 1,435 minutes.

    tell me this: does Hamas make ANY attempts to avoid civilian deaths? Any? Whatsoever? Do they even try and avoid deaths for Palestinians? The answer is no. Keep defending savages.
    why is that? BECAUSE HAMAS AND THOSE BEFORE THEM DELIBERATELY PUT THEM IN HARMS WAY!!! How do you not understand this??? They receive warnings of pending strikes (lol at thinking they only get 5 minutes) and Hamas tells them to go back inside. They hide weapons in schools and when Israel tries to evacuate they tell the kids to die for the cause.


    Insane.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    It doesn't matter, Israel is going in, and many will die, and it will be Hamas fault for doing this in the first place. A country can't take it on the chin and look away, they have to go in there and root out as many as they can.

    Hell, I am surprised there are not assassination teams already sneaking around other countries and killing anyone associated with Hamas.....they are now on the scale of Nazis for me.

    DD
     
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  12. Nook

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    I agree with you 100%.

    I think there are several things going on.

    First, there is no way that high level Israeli's are not kicking themselves for not cleansing all of the Arabs in the occupied territory at an earlier date, before social media. They have had a few times in the past where the likely could have gotten away with it. They also have to know that they are sitting well from the perspective of older Americans and even a lot of older Europeans when it comes to taking sides on this issue - but that is not the case with younger people, who did not have any connection to WWII or the treatment of Jews and are more sympathetic of the Palestinians. Couple that with more Jews wanting to push out into the occupied zone and there is a lot of pressure to eliminated the Arabs.

    Second, from the perspective of the Palestinians, they are over half under 20 years old - and they are 3rd generation of hearing how Israel is the most evil and oppressive. There is no logic or compromise to their hatred of Jews. Every single problem in their lives can be traced back to Israel from their warped perspective. They also have less to lose, they live in poverty and apartheid, they are willing to blow up everything and die or kill indiscriminately.
    For example, it isn't surprising to me that they killed women and children.

    It isn't like WWII - where the Germans (and some Europeans outside Germany) wanted to kill the Jews, but the Jews had no real plan or desire to kill the Germans........ this is an all-out hatred on both sides, where everything is pointing to genocide.

    My guess is that we see Israel kill a lot of Palestinians in the coming decade, we see them destroy Palestinian homes, etc.... we see Palestinians keep trying to kill Jews..... and when it is all said and done, Gaza and the WestBank are close to Arab free....... and those bordering countries stay out of it, for benefits from Israel or the West.
     
  13. ROXRAN

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    it's not a bloodlust, it's a hope that Hamas is eradicated - the only personal bloodlust I have is if someone comes after my family way that Hamas came after innocent families ... for example, if you come at my family, you will have to come through me first ..I don't use human shields - Hamas on the other hand care so little about Palestinians is that they are mere disposable human shields
     
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  14. fchowd0311

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    I haven't earned the "right" to be giddy about war. I'm not effected by this conflict personally. I just the hyper levels of blood lust of you love in Israel or Gaza now.

    I can discuss the situation. Anyone has "earned" the right.

    My expression of this sentiment is about western comfortable people having undeserved blood lust. For example when you see a liberal watching combat camera footage of a 18 year old Russian conscripts suffering while slowly dying in Ukraine and cheering and being gleeful about it, there is something wrong with how your brain is wired.

    I can understand a Ukrainian living in Ukraine experience the actions of the Russian military having these irrational blood lust feelings and feeling giddy about seeing a Russian teenage boy dying. It's something I can understand. I can't understand it from people not affected by the conflict at all.
     
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    I haven't earned the "right" to be giddy about war. I'm not effected by this conflict personally. I just the hyper levels of blood lust of you love in Israel or Gaza now.

    I can discuss the situation. Anyone has "earned" the right.

    My expression of this sentiment is about western comfortable people having undeserved blood lust. For example when you see a liberal watching combat camera footage of a 18 year old Russian conscripts suffering while slowly dying in Ukraine and cheering and being gleeful about it, there is something wrong with how your brain is wired.

    I can understand a Ukrainian living in Ukraine experience the actions of the Russian military having these irrational blood lust feelings and feeling giddy about seeing a Russian teenage boy dying. It's something I can understand. I can't understand it from people not affected by the conflict at all.
    I think the idea of blaming Palestinian civilian deaths on Palestians is kinda depraved.

    Again, you are trying to draw comprisions of two entities with entirely different means.

    An insurgency/terror group started within a population of people packed in like sardine cans and have basically no basic human rights and operate their insurgency within the popular?

    No **** Sherlock. Indiscrumebtsllt bombing a place that has more than 30,000 people per square mile doesn't need "humans shields" to indiscriminately kill Palestinian civilians.
     
  16. fchowd0311

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    Did Hamas murder those civilians or the IDF?

    It's so frustrating how people can dismiss a 5 to 1 ratio of civilian deaths for one side and just wash it away with "human shields!".

    Dude get a hold of yourself. If you think the IDF has zero agency in creating a entire zone of PTSD scitzo teens who have nothing to lose you are insane. Israel is responsible for creating a population of people who have nothing to lose.
     
  17. fchowd0311

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    It's a bloodlust, a bloodlust that isn't justified due to the privileged life you had. People with your lifestyle shouldn't have these feelings.
     
  18. davidio840

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    Yea no.. Hamas murdered those civilians setting up terrorist organizations within the civilian population. Israel didn't shoot rockets into Israel and Israel didn't create a terrorist organization in Gaza. WTF are you even talking about?

    Hamas, as well as other terrorist organizations, are responsible for brainwashing Muslims into thinking if they sacrifice themselves, they have virgins awaiting them in the afterlife. That is a perfect example of "creating a population of people with nothing to lose".
     
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    Wokes who want fat dudes in sororities would get chopped by the Hamas
    Hamas doesn’t even like sororities much less fat dudes
     
  20. fchowd0311

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    Yes religion is why someone born and raised in Brooklyn who is a lawyer who lives a comfortable lifestyle migrates to the West Bank and forcebly removed Palestians from their home who don't have a comfortable lifestyle in America to fall back to.


    Religion isn't responsible for this:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar...lysis were conducted.-,Results,from 6% to 70%.
     

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