I agree that Israel should eliminate the threat of future October 7th attacks, and I agree that it’s hard to know what is necessary to achieve that. I also agree that violent anger that is evident amongst Hamas leaders and fighters is not limited to them. That is the reason that Israel must tread carefully in its “eradicate Hamas at all costs” strategy. A strategy that serves to intensify hate against Israel — likely one of the intended goals of the Hamas attack — does not serve Israel’s long term interests. Or our interests, for that matter. A strategy in which Gazans are forcibly transferred out of their homeland would be (with some justification) perceived as ethnic cleansing. Israel, again, doesn’t benefit from this. Israel should be seeking a path in which they can repair their broken image in Gaza and West Bank. Flattening Gaza to squash Hamas — without any sort of post-war plan or adequate safeguards for civilians — is not the way. Bibi striking deals to appease and curry support from far-right, religious ultra-nationalists who want to take over all of West Bank certainly doesn’t help either.
This is how it has been for almost 20 years. There was a lull in the 80's and 90's where it seemed that peace would eventually be possible. Not anymore. Israel wants Gaza and WestBank for Lebensraum.
The root of human conflict is humans All war is about land and resources if you wanted to bet me what will come first , another rockets back to back championship or peace in the Middle East money is easily on the rockets @basso @ROXRAN the west > Middle East , you aren’t going to see Canada attack us or Sweden vs Norway war we can go deep on the lunacy of that region That we all know ancient humans or aliens ruled back in the day Now we know why they left for Osiris
Forget the Middle East Look at Los Angeles remember the 90s? Looters invaded the Koreans in Korea town which had nothing to do with Rodney King what do you think the Koreans did ? Nah breh human nature , you mess with us we mess with you @rocketsjudoka @AroundTheWorld
What do you think happens if Iran declares war on America and they attacked Houston ? @basso @AroundTheWorld
The Hamas-affiliated Water and Environment Quality Authority announced a ban against the digging of water wells in all Gaza governorates. Gazans, however, believe this ban is only designed to obtain money in exchange for issuing licenses for drilling wells. “There are three sources of water in Gaza: 92% of the water is secured from the aquifer, 6% is purchased from Israel and 2% through sea water desalination." Banna believes the best solution to ease the water crisis in the Gaza Strip is to establish seawater desalination projects, which will reduce citizens’ reliance on the aquifer. He called on the international community to provide financial support for the completion of such projects. The International support and aid $ to build a desalination plant was, unfortunately, used by Hamas to fund terror activities and an estimated $10 Billion was stolen by Hamas leaders Ismael Haniyeh and Khaled Mashal when they fled to Qatar. https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2021/08/gazans-fear-worst-after-hamas-bans-water-wells
The Left would have a problem with Israel even if it the conflict was exactly the same but it was a Christian ethno-state rather than a Jewish ethno-state. Opposition to Israel from the far-right (rare, but you can find it) stems from anti-semitism. I don’t think opposition to Israel from the far-left has anything to do with it being Jewish. One need only ask themselves this question. Is there a single Jewish person on the far-right who is against Israel? I doubt you’d find such a person. On the other hand, you’ll find plenty of Jewish people on the far-left who are against Israel.
@J.R. @AroundTheWorld @Commodore @FranchiseBlade you want Hamas to control your water bill ? Or the city of Houston ?
my working theory is millennials and Gen Z, after years of indoctrination in DEI, the evils of white people, and the virtues of victimhood, have conflated Jews generally as "white", and therefore oppressors. so even as they're raping, slaughtering, and baking their victims, somehow the Palestinians are still the victims.
This is well-intentioned, but let's face it, they could give every inhabitant of Gaza a million dollars, and it would still not happen. Many of the peacenik people who were trying to work on this on the Israeli side actually got massacred on Oct. 7.
The irony here is that IDF forces were spread thin on Oct 7th mostly occupied with supplementing settlers in the West Bank as they kick out and/or kill Palestinians. The world didn't begin on Oct 7. If i chose to I also could spam my news feeds with genocidal rhetoric from high level Israeli officials to Israeli children singing about clearing out Gaza so they could return to plowing fields. so wholesome
The peace process will take time and wounds won’t be settled overnight. Many of the young Gazans committing or cheering on atrocities against Jews on October 7th have experienced their own tragedies, living through multiple sieges against Gaza from the Israeli military in their lifetime. This hardens the soul and erodes one’s ability to see humanity in their perceived enemies. What’s happening in Gaza right now is absolutely not helping address that fundamental problem.
It's worsening it. It's creating a new pool of radicalized youth itching for revenge. The only end state outcome for that is making sure that potential pool is annialited(genocide)
You are a good guy, with good intentions. What you say is true, but Israel tried for decades to co-exist. It got them October 7. Israel must not allow the forces of evil to regroup and commit another October 7. The time to worry about "oh, will this cause more resentment" are over. Giving them autonomy and partly opening the borders led to October 7. Israel must fully destroy any of Hamas' capabilities and bring every Hamas member to justice. The threat must be eliminated completely. The hostages must be freed. Only after that can amy healing begin.
