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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

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  1. Ubiquitin

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    Just because it’s posted on Twitter or IG does not make something true.

    Just because the person has a blue check mark does not mean it’s authentic.

    Bad actors like her post lies, distortions, and disinformation. Viewers will accept it as true because it fits into what they want to believe.

    She is a Russian propagandist. But the Arab street are watching her videos and are already using this to downplay the atrocities of 10/7.
     
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    Different folks, different strokes. I think Jesuits are rightous folks.

    Serious question for you: Have you ever considered converting to Judaism and getting an Israeli citizenship?

    A few of my Jewish friends have Israeli citizenship because in their words “they like have a place of their own”. They kept their US citizenship and continue to work and live in the US. But they also flew over to Israel last month to deliver aid (donated toys and clothes mostly) to the Southern Israelis affected by the initial attack.
     
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    Todays rabbit hole will be the relationship between Israel and the LDS Church.

    Does the LDS Church support the IDF?

    https://www.deseret.com/2023/10/12/...-lds-mormon-statement-on-israel-gaza-violence


    ‘Our hearts ache’: Latter-day Saint leaders issue statement calling violence in Middle East ‘abhorrent’


    The First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints issued a statement Thursday about Middle East violence.

    We are devastated by the recent eruption of violence and loss of life in the Middle East. Violence of this nature is abhorrent to us and is not in harmony with the gospel of Jesus Christ, which is a gospel of peace. At such times, our hearts ache for all victims of this atrocity.

    As servants of God, we affirm that He calls upon all of us to love our neighbors as ourselves, and we pray for a peaceful resolution of all conflicts.
    President Russell M. Nelson called for more peacemakers during one of his talks at the church’s April 2023 international general conference. He said, “Contention never leads to inspired solutions.”

    He added, “Let us show that there is a peaceful, respectful way to resolve complex issues and an enlightened way to work out disagreements.”
     
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    What about the Episcopal Church? Surely they would support the IDF.

    https://www.episcopalchurch.org/ogr...s-for-prayers-for-peace-in-the-holy-land/amp/


    The Episcopal Church calls for prayers for peace in the Holy Land

    We offer our prayers and support during this time of violence in Israel and Palestine. In Luke 19:41, we are reminded ‘That when Jesus drew near and saw the city, he wept over it.’ Many still weep.

    We pray for those who have been killed, injured, are searching for loved ones, and are struggling with grief and fear. The Episcopal Diocese of Jerusalem has consistently advocated for peace and justice, teaching us all what it means to walk in the way of love, to which Jesus points.

    We are praying for Israelis and Palestinians.

    We give thanks for the dedicated staff at al-Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza, part of the Episcopal Diocese of Jerusalem, and for all who are offering medical care in the region. We pray for their strength and safety.

    Please join us in praying that there is a de-escalation and that the root causes of violence and oppression may be confronted and challenged so that a new understanding of peace prevails.”

    – The Rev. C.K. Robertson, PhD, Canon to the Presiding Bishop for Ministry Beyond The Episcopal Church


    The Episcopal Church, a founding member of Churches for Middle East Peace, shares the following statement:

    “Churches for Middle East Peace (CMEP) is deeply grieved by the news coming out of Israel and
    Gaza today. CMEP condemns all acts of violence against civilians that have occurred in the past
    twenty-four hours, as fighting has escalated between Hamas and Israel. As of late Saturday (EDT),
    reports indicated that hundreds have been killed and thousands wounded, both Israelis and
    Palestinians. CMEP mourns with the victims of the violence and their families.

    The actions of Hamas and the Israeli response in Gaza in no way advance peace, but rather cause
    loss of life and harm, grief, and devastation, not only to the individuals affected, but also to the
    legitimate cause of the Palestinian people in seeking an end to the decades long occupation and the
    blockade of the Gaza Strip.

    Throughout this year, CMEP and allies have urgently been calling attention to the evolving context,
    characterized by escalating levels of violence between settlers, soldiers, and Palestinians. The
    increased nationalism and radicalization within Israeli society have led to more frequent and
    numerous incidents of hatred, racialized tensions, settler attacks, and incursions onto Muslim and
    Christian holy sites such as Stella Maris Monastery in Haifa and the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.
    These realities are not justifications but have long been ignored by the international community,
    including the longstanding frustration and desperation of the Palestinian people who seek an end to
    the oppression of the occupation and Israeli desires for lack of fear and for security. It is time for the
    US and the international community to strengthen efforts to de-escalate the systemic violence that
    has gone on for decades.
     
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    Dislike. It’s a tragedy that they can’t leave safely.
     
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    Much better way of conducting operations. Positive news.
     
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    Christianity and Israel will likely never see eye to eye.

    https://www.haaretz.com/life/books/...econcile/0000017f-ed48-dc91-a17f-fdcd7c1b0000

    'We Curse Christianity Three Times a Day': Can Jews and Christians Truly Reconcile?
    The 1965 Vatican Council, and subsequent efforts by the Church to reconcile with Judaism, did not win over Orthodox Jews, who believe that their reading of the Scriptures is correct – not the Christians'. A new book discusses these uneasy relations


    lmao does his lipoma have a Yarmulke too?
     
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    Oh it’s a photoshop
     
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    Terrorist state of Israel has admitted they've bombed a hospital 4 weeks ago. Then they denied it and blamed it on Hamas once they see the reaction from the rest of the world and now they keep bombing hospitals and schools again.

    I don't know when all this conflict is going to finally end but i'm pretty sure it's not going to end well for israel after all the war crimes they've committed in the last 75 years.
     
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    Where is the protests at?
     
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    Free Palestine from Hamas !
    How does Hamas feel about the Palestinian human shields that once cheered for them turning their backs on them and deciding to live ?

    Death or surrender is the ONLY solution and I love it so much !
     
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    Do you know what a better quote is?


    When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons. Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.
    Golda Meir, A Land of Our Own: An Oral Autobiography
     
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    I know that quote well, they are both good and true quotes.
     

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